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  • #31
    Originally posted by Round 1
    boxing rules should not be "adjusted" when certain fighters fight.
    If that was the case, Tyson opponents should have been fitted with earmuffs after his fight with Holyfield!
    They don't have to be adjusted for certain fighters, they should be adjusted across the board to prevent another bull**** fight like Coralles - Castillo 1. Clearly-- and it's just about undeniable unless you're A) ******ed, or B) a Coralles nuthugger-- Coralles would not have won had he not have had over thirty seconds to get his head clear. If he wants that much time, he should get near the ropes and go outside the ring, but that risks further injury.

    You have to prevent cheating like that, and that is cheating. Coralles should have been DQ'ed in the first fight, and should he pull that **** again, he will be DQ'ed.

    I honestly don't see how people are his fan still. I liked him before the fight, but I can't stand him after that.

    Originally posted by bombadier
    I just had this image of the ref spitting into a hankerchief and rubbing it on the boxer's cheek as well, like a mother would .

    After what happened I don't think any fighter is going to be abel to get away with what Corrales did anymore. But high marks to him for doing whatever it took to win.
    Hey, let's give Golota high marks for all his low blows. Let's give Benn his high marks for permanently disabling McClellan. Let's give Tyson high marks for biting Holyfield's ears off. Yeah, **** the rules! DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO WIN! Pull your head out of your ass, please.

    Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
    Or after a knockdown. Which the ref did.
    Not if the guy who got knocked down spit his mouthpiece. That's complete bull****. Stop hanging on Chico's nuts. It was a bull**** move, and he should have been DQ'ed for it. After a KD is not the time to put a moutpiece in, it gives the guy time to clear his head, and Coralles knew that, so he spit the mouthpiece. Seriously, are you ******ed or something?
    Last edited by BadMagick; 10-05-2005, 07:18 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ispayder
      Deliberate spitting of mouthpiece:
      First offense - warning
      Second offecnse - point deduction
      Third - Disqualification

      I think this is fair enough.
      Three is too many, which should be clear from the Coralles - Castillo 1 fight. The first time a deliberate spit of the mouthpiece should be a DQ.

      Originally posted by 2NdRoUnDkO
      chico's heart, determination, and left hooks and right hands won the fight for corrales....the mouthpiece trick just gave him another chance.
      His thirty plus seconds to clear his head won him that fight. Had he not had that time, his head would have been foggy still, JLC would have come in and caught him a few more times, and the ref would have stopped it after a third KD. That's all theorizing, yes, but it's pretty probable that a guy who goes down twice that fast is going to go down a third.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BadMagick



        His thirty plus seconds to clear his head won him that fight. Had he not had that time, his head would have been foggy still, JLC would have come in and caught him a few more times, and the ref would have stopped it after a third KD. That's all theorizing, yes, but it's pretty probable that a guy who goes down twice that fast is going to go down a third.
        oh i agree that the mouthpiece helped him servive like crazy cuz the probability of Corrales being stopped after the 2nd KD was very high, but you can't say he only won because of that...

        it was the earlier rounds of puishment on the inside(both fighters dished it out and took it though) and a good shot. Corrales still could have been stopped after the 30 seconds b/c of his mouthpiece--->he was tired as hell and lets face it...Corrales isn't known for his defense.

        basically i'm saying that you can't say that Corrales won the match just because of the mouthpiece...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BadMagick
          They don't have to be adjusted for certain fighters, they should be adjusted across the board to prevent another bull**** fight like Coralles - Castillo 1. Clearly-- and it's just about undeniable unless you're A) ******ed, or B) a Coralles nuthugger-- Coralles would not have won had he not have had over thirty seconds to get his head clear. If he wants that much time, he should get near the ropes and go outside the ring, but that risks further injury.

          You have to prevent cheating like that, and that is cheating. Coralles should have been DQ'ed in the first fight, and should he pull that **** again, he will be DQ'ed.

          I honestly don't see how people are his fan still. I liked him before the fight, but I can't stand him after that.



          Hey, let's give Golota high marks for all his low blows. Let's give Benn his high marks for permanently disabling McClellan. Let's give Tyson high marks for biting Holyfield's ears off. Yeah, **** the rules! DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO WIN! Pull your head out of your ass, please.



          Not if the guy who got knocked down spit his mouthpiece. That's complete bull****. Stop hanging on Chico's nuts. It was a bull**** move, and he should have been DQ'ed for it. After a KD is not the time to put a moutpiece in, it gives the guy time to clear his head, and Coralles knew that, so he spit the mouthpiece. Seriously, are you ******ed or something?
          Totally agree...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by 2NdRoUnDkO
            oh i agree that the mouthpiece helped him servive like crazy cuz the probability of Corrales being stopped after the 2nd KD was very high, but you can't say he only won because of that...

            it was the earlier rounds of puishment on the inside(both fighters dished it out and took it though) and a good shot. Corrales still could have been stopped after the 30 seconds b/c of his mouthpiece--->he was tired as hell and lets face it...Corrales isn't known for his defense.

            basically i'm saying that you can't say that Corrales won the match just because of the mouthpiece...
            I can say it was a much bigger part of things than you're making it out to be. Had he not had the thirty seconds, not only would he be tired, but his head would be full of fog. He couldn't think or move straight for a bit, and he would have been out in a few more seconds.

            As stated, that's all heresay, and what has happened has happened, but it was still a ***** move on Coralles' part.

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            • #36
              i think it was a smart move cuz evryboxer has dirty tricks. holyfield butts, hopkins punches ur legs in clenches, mayweather pushes/holds his opponents wtih his forearm so he has space to punch, tito low-blows, and corrales spits out his mouthpiece

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 2NdRoUnDkO
                i think it was a smart move cuz evryboxer has dirty tricks. holyfield butts, hopkins punches ur legs in clenches, mayweather pushes/holds his opponents wtih his forearm so he has space to punch, tito low-blows, and corrales spits out his mouthpiece
                ANyone who says that COrrales should be DQ'd is a lame dummy. It's enough to penalize him with poin deduction. That way, Castillo gets to KO's in one. That's fair enough. Afterall, it's not like Corrales gave Castillo a low blow or something.

                the penalty must fit the crime. Getting DQ'd for spitting the mouthpiece is illogical and funny.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Pak men
                  ANyone who says that COrrales should be DQ'd is a lame dummy. It's enough to penalize him with poin deduction. That way, Castillo gets to KO's in one. That's fair enough. Afterall, it's not like Corrales gave Castillo a low blow or something.

                  the penalty must fit the crime. Getting DQ'd for spitting the mouthpiece is illogical and funny.
                  No way, getting 30 sec's to rid your head of the little birdies is illogical, considering thats what tko's are all about.
                  And, going by your logic, if that were the case, hell, they'd all be spitting out their piece when they were in touble...what fun would that be? Tko's and ko's would possibly become a thing of the past and then we'd be stuck with screwed up, inaccurate decisions all the time.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by tracylee
                    No way, getting 30 sec's to rid your head of the little birdies is illogical, considering thats what tko's are all about.
                    And, going by your logic, if that were the case, hell, they'd all be spitting out their piece when they were in touble...what fun would that be? Tko's and ko's would possibly become a thing of the past and then we'd be stuck with screwed up, inaccurate decisions all the time.
                    And if we go by your logic, a KD fighter is hurt. Even if you give him a minute's rest, he will still be hurt.

                    A disqualification is lame coz it doesn't suit the crime. A point deduction is the proper penalty. Now I hear a lot of Castillo fans saying the mouthpiece spitting is what won it for Corrales.

                    BULL****! Corrales was down twice, even if you gave him 1 minute's rest, it wouldn't have mattered anyway. The reality is, when the tide turned against Castillo, he couldn't take it and down he went straight.

                    Following my logic, if Corrales survived the round, Castillo would have had a 10-6 round which would virtually insure the win. Blaming Castillo's loss for the mouthpiece spitting is illogical and funny.

                    The reason why Castillo lost is that he couldn't handle the heat when it came down to the thick of things.

                    And that's the fact.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Pak men
                      Following my logic, if Corrales survived the round, Castillo would have had a 10-6 round which would virtually insure the win.

                      Really? You said before that Corrales fought a brilliant strategy and had a massive points lead.

                      In the words of the infamous tool Professor Henry Lee "something not right here". Keep it coming, we need some comic relief.

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