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  • D4thincarnation
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    #31
    Originally posted by Tobi.G
    We live in another age now. Today 213 is verry light for a heavyweight today.
    You have to be verry good, Haye is good but is he good enough? it takes a verry good 213 pound man to beat a good 242 pound man.
    Is Wlad a bigger puncher than heavies of the past that weighed under 220lbs?

    No, many of them were bigger punches.

    Has he a better chin than those past heavies?

    No, many of them had granite chins.

    Does he have better stamina and workrate?

    No, many of them showed far more endurance and fought for 15 round or more.

    Is Wlad more skilfull than those great heavies.

    No, what he does he does well, but lacks many of the skills of the past greats.

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    • ChopperRead
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      #32
      Originally posted by ♠ĞЯ8ЯH8Я©
      just tell vit to worry about the dumb polak midget he has to squash
      Nice. The midget who Haye didn't have the balls to fight as either a cruiser or a heavyweight.

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      • ChopperRead
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        #33
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation
        Is Wlad a bigger puncher than heavies of the past that weighed under 220lbs?

        No, many of them were bigger punches.
        How do you know? Were you punched by them?

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        • D4thincarnation
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          #34
          Originally posted by ChopperRead
          How do you know? Were you punched by them?

          Were you?

          How do you know they weren't.

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          • ChopperRead
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            #35
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation
            Were you?

            How do you know they weren't.
            I'm not the one making assertions with no evidence to back them up.

            Given Wladimir's KO percentage being in the higher echelons of HW history, it is safe to assume he is also one of he hardest punches in the HW history.

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              #36
              Originally posted by ChopperRead
              I'm not the one making assertions with no evidence to back them up.

              Given Wladimir's KO percentage being in the higher echelons of HW history, it is safe to assume he is also one of he hardest punches in the HW history.
              Tyrone Brunson has one of the best KO records of all time if not the best, but he is not the biggest puncher of all-time.

              Wlad power punch the right cross, is not the best punch for generating power.

              Wlad also get his KOs with numerous punches.

              Wlad level of opponents are well bellow other champions.

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                #37
                Vitali...don't underestimate Haye. He's coming for you next after he wins Saturday!!!!

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                • ChopperRead
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  Tyrone Brunson has one of the best KO records of all time if not the best, but he is not the biggest puncher of all-time.

                  Wlad power punch the right cross, is not the best punch for generating power.

                  Wlad also get his KOs with numerous punches.

                  Wlad level of opponents are well bellow other champions.
                  Shannon Briggs said Vitali hit harder than anyone he's faced, including Lennox Lewis. "Vitali hit CRAZY hard" is the direct quote.

                  And I would say Wlad is a the harder puncher of the two, Vitali being an accumulation KO artist.

                  Both brothers are among the hardest punchers in HW boxing history, as the numbers prove.

                  Level of opponents below some champions, and not others. Certainly not below Larry Holmes, who had a long reign feasting on bums like Tex Cobb, who either K-Bro would KO in one round.

                  Tell yourself whatever helps you sleep at night, though. By this time tomorrow Haye will be history.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by TheSlickster
                    Vitali...don't underestimate Haye. He's coming for you next after he wins Saturday!!!!
                    I'd love to see Vitali put Haye in the hospital. Too bad it is very unlikely to happen, as Haye's career will be done in less than 24hrs.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ChopperRead
                      I'd love to see Vitali put Haye in the hospital. Too bad it is very unlikely to happen, as Haye's career will be done in less than 24hrs.
                      The Vitali putting haye in the hospital, i wouldn't mind either since I like Vitali eventho i'd still root for Haye in that fight.

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