Comments Thread For: Vitali: Haye is Too Light, He's Not a Real Heavyweight

[Taaj Manzoor]

Well Taaj, I have about 10 mill points to make a friendly bet on Klitschko. How about you??

How about all your points against all mine?

[edgarg]

Vitali has a point.

David "sqeazing down to 200 lbs" years ago just seems like baloney at times.

He comes in at 215ish so it just doesn't make sense to me.

He's weighed as heavy as 235 in training before.

Weight's not everything but it counts for a good amount. If Haye's the huge CW he said he was, 2 years on in HW he should be comfortable carrying that speed to 225 and he's just not.

According to the records he has always made 200 comfortably for his Cruiserweight fights, and 6-7 years ago was fighting at 190. If he can even give Klitschko a good fight, it will be a 'feather-in-his-cap". But I doubt it. If he gets close he'll get hammered. I don't soubt THAT.

And klitschko is fast on his feet, and great at cutting off the ring...like a great cat.

[Evil Abed]

Third lightest guy Wlad has fought

Chambers was 209 Wlad 244

Exum Speight 207 Wlad 221

David Haye 212 Wlad 242

Chris Byrd 213 Wlad 241 and 238.

Size will be a factor.

Can Haye make his speed a factor?

We shall see.

[edgarg]

How about all your points against all mine?

Ah...the "wily oriental"of the long ago Arabian Nights stories which I've been reading and re-reading since a child. Great book. But I have double the points that you have.

Most of them are tied up in no-odds bets, and I have about 10 mill left. Either you want it or you don't. It's your choice. Still a friendly bet. You can PM me if you wish, as I often don't return to my posts.

[ModernTalking]

They said the same thing about Holyfield Vitali when he left the cruiseweight division as the unified champion and we all know how that story ended.

Holyfield had an iron chin, Haye has a glass chin.

[HEYPHILLIP]

Haye is the same size Ali was in his prime.I didn't hear all this talk about Ali being to light.The problem is these heavyweights today are to big Haye is the perfect size heavyweight.

[deuce_drop]

there isnt many heavyweights that come close to the weight of wald or vitali, at least guys that aren't fat and sloppy.

not a lot of people in this world thrive on steroids and can benefit from radiation from chernobyl like the klitchsko's have, like in young frankenstien, they're " abby normal "



they're super heavyweights...........

look as long as haye can avoid being picked apart by the jab right hand, and he can fight on the inside without letting wald clinch like he is john ruiz jr, any squared up punch from haye on wlads chin can knock him out or down, making him weak and vulnerable for punishment.


it's up to haye whether or not he has a chance, wlad isnt used to guys taking the fight to him, they talk about it but don't do it in the ring, and NO ONE EVER TRIES AND FIGHTS WLAD ON THE INSIDE, which they should, wlad only clinches, HE HAS NO INSIDE FIGHTING............

haye has enough power to drop or stop wlad, but will he make and or take the openings to hurt to radiated giant!!! idk??

he is beatable, i don't know why people think wlad is indestructable??? lesser skilled fighters and guys with decent power have stopped him and beat him, haye can very well join that clique.......

[intoccabile]

Haye is the same size Ali was in his prime.I didn't hear all this talk about Ali being to light.The problem is these heavyweights today are to big Haye is the perfect size heavyweight.

Everyone in alis Era were the same size, buddy.

Ali amre foreman for example were the same exact size when they fought, pretty much. Ali would be a cruiserweight today.

[LRcie03]

He is big enough to hurt Wlad, and fast enough to stay away.. so I say he has a chance lets watch tomorrow.

[Stanly Ketchel]

Wladimir voice:

I see Deved Hey, with shirt, and cut head of my brother. This, is beyond sport, this, is over the edge. Trust me, this guy gonnna be punished.