Should Pac ask Floyd for xylocaine test in this fight?

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Yes, that was to deter the cheating on the scales like he did against Marquez. We're talking about preventing a fighter from using numbing agents that allow him to hit much harder than usual, which is dangerous for both the fighter and his opponent.

My guess is that's the reason Floyd takes such long stretches of time off- he loads up on the injections during training camp and now during fights because WADA/USADA doesn't test for it. Then once it wears off, he realizes how much damage he's done to his hands, and needs time to heal. Just my theory.

But either way, can't have a fighter going into the ring with numbed hands, lidocaine in Boxing is a PED, no doubt about it. We have to protect our fighters, no tainted Ws on the record because guys are loading up with lidocaine or other substances and performing past their pain thresholds. Random testing for numbing agents should be a part of this fight and all others.

Manny hasn't made contracted weight twice in his career (if i'm not mistaken) so why doesn't Floyd have a penalty in place. Is it because it's ridiculous to think Manny will come in greater than 147, because he missed the contracted weight at 120 or 130??, absolutely and RIGHTLY so it is ridiculous!!!! The same way it's ridiculous to say Floyd set a precedent by weighing 146 in a fight contracted for 144. If he had failed to make contracted weight at WW, then fair enough. EITHER WAY IT'S MOOT BECAUSE FLOYD SAID YES!!

Pain killers don't make you hit harder. They make you be able to hit at your hardest without being hindered by pain if you hurt you hand.....if you break your hand it will still hurt. Topical Lidocaine isn't magic, it's a local anaesthetic. Lidocaine is legal in Nevada and not a prohibited substance under WADA code. You should look up some of the uses of topical Lidocaine and Lidocaine in other forms.....i LOL at you trying to turn this debate on it's head.

If Manny is concerned about it, perhaps they should add it to the USADA's list for the purpose of this fight, but he better watch it if he get's a bad headache or needs some painkillers for his leg or back, just in case they contain Lidocaine. Then again i believe the NSAC tests for it post-fight, so i'm assuming it's not used during any fight, as apparently it's only legal one week before fights. So despite additional testing by USADA, Floyd and Manny would still be subject to the meek testing of the NSAC. I thought *******s loved the NSAC testing standards.....guess that is only when it fits your agenda???

[check hook]

Its Tested For and is Banned In Nevada

De La Hoya was given a shot of Lidocaine the day of the injury to numb the cut area so the stitches could be taken. Lidocaine is a substance banned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marc Ratner, CEO of the commission, said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/DE+LA+...29-a0122340014


Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3019074.ece

Nevada boxing officials said yesterday they would fine and probably suspend Lloyd Honeyghan. They said the British fighter tested positive for the painkilling drug lidocaine after losing his World Boxing Council welterweight title to Marlon Starling on Feb. 4.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sp...l?pagewanted=1

Tested as far back as 1989

Even writers your Pac fans like to qoute conceded nothing is on the Xylocaine topic.

The official answers on Xylocaine: Is it illegal in the USA? Is it banned in Boxing? Is it a PED? - National Fight Sports | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...#ixzz1Q1knQl99

Michael Marley - True that: Floyd Mayweather is cleaner than Board Of Health

More?

As Kizer explained it, fighters must, under penalty of perjury, sign a statement at the fight weigh ins discloosing what, if any, pain or other serious medication they have used or plan to use anytime between the weigh in and fight time.

“Mayweather has never disclosed any such information so, as far as we are concerned, this is not any kind of issue. I know the ardent Pacquiao fans talk a lot about but to us it's the same as the speculation about Pacquiao using any sort of drugs which comes from the Mayweather fans out there. Both of them have always tested clean in Nevada.”

Kizer said he could name other boxers who have asked permission to use aspirin, Lidocaine, cortisone and other “pain the****utic” medications.

(Nevada commission director Keith Kizer)

http://www.examiner.com/x-5699-Boxin...ands-are-clean



Testing is Worse is Dallas, making it easier To take if wanted.

The Texas Dept. of Licensing and Regulation won't be drug testing the boxers before and after their bout, a spokesman told the Daily News

Most state commissions have boxers submit to only urine tests before and after a fight. The Texas agency doesn't even do that. Its executive director, William Kuntz, can order a drug screen for boxers if there is "good cause." But Susan Stanford, a public information officer for the department, doesn't envision that happening for this fight, even though Pacquiao has come under increased scrutiny of late over the issue of performance-enhancing drugs. "At the present time, no drug testing will be required of the boxers," she told The News Thursday. "We don't see rumors as good cause. There is a medical examination before the fight, but that doesn't include drug testing."

Arum said he chose to stage the fight in Texas for the amenities, not the lack of drug testing. "I always assumed (that Texas) did drug testing, but I know for sure that the WBO insists on that," Arum said in a phone interview. "The reason the fight is in Texas is because it's in Cowboys Stadium, not because of the (lack of) drug testing."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2010/02/26/2010-02-26_no_test_issues_for_manny_fight.html#ixzz0gdhpb9LS

Testing for drugs after the fight is not Mandatory in Texas, Just if they choose to. (Making testing guide lines worse)

^^^^

what he said. Also if a weight penalty is there to deter cheating, isn't the same true of random blood and urine testing. Every authority on the topic had rubbished NSAC testing standards as inadequate and ineffectual.....it's not even up for debate, yet when Floyd wants to deter cheating it's not acceptable???

[spyvsspy]

xylocaine use is banned in Texas. floyd will have to take the tests adminstered by the texan athletic commission, if Bob arum decides to book the cowboy stadium for this fight

Olympic style testing is done for athletes who compete in the olympics. If floyd fights pac in the 2012 olympics then they both will have their blood tested olympic style.

[straightleft]

Olympic style testing is done for athletes who compete in the olympics. If floyd fights pac in the 2012 olympics then they both will have their blood tested olympic style.

Floyd test is far the real Olympic test. He also wasn't tested for xylocaine abuse in Mosley fight according to ex-NSAC chairman.

[junior gong]

**** thread, and its probably a wind up, but the ts sounds almost as dumb, if not as dumb as the butthurt *****'s that have posted in here.

[tomhawq]

pac doesnt give a ***** what floyd takes.

this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

pac only trains and fights and doesn't concern himself with ****** testing sh.t. only cowards demand that sh.t.

[Rip Chudd]

Its Tested For and is Banned In Nevada

De La Hoya was given a shot of Lidocaine the day of the injury to numb the cut area so the stitches could be taken. Lidocaine is a substance banned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marc Ratner, CEO of the commission, said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/DE+LA+...29-a0122340014


Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3019074.ece

Nevada boxing officials said yesterday they would fine and probably suspend Lloyd Honeyghan. They said the British fighter tested positive for the painkilling drug lidocaine after losing his World Boxing Council welterweight title to Marlon Starling on Feb. 4.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sp...l?pagewanted=1

Tested as far back as 1989

Even writers your Pac fans like to qoute conceded nothing is on the Xylocaine topic.

The official answers on Xylocaine: Is it illegal in the USA? Is it banned in Boxing? Is it a PED? - National Fight Sports | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...#ixzz1Q1knQl99

Michael Marley - True that: Floyd Mayweather is cleaner than Board Of Health

More?

As Kizer explained it, fighters must, under penalty of perjury, sign a statement at the fight weigh ins discloosing what, if any, pain or other serious medication they have used or plan to use anytime between the weigh in and fight time.

“Mayweather has never disclosed any such information so, as far as we are concerned, this is not any kind of issue. I know the ardent Pacquiao fans talk a lot about but to us it's the same as the speculation about Pacquiao using any sort of drugs which comes from the Mayweather fans out there. Both of them have always tested clean in Nevada.”

Kizer said he could name other boxers who have asked permission to use aspirin, Lidocaine, cortisone and other “pain the****utic” medications.

(Nevada commission director Keith Kizer)

http://www.examiner.com/x-5699-Boxin...ands-are-clean



Testing is Worse is Dallas, making it easier To take if wanted.

The Texas Dept. of Licensing and Regulation won't be drug testing the boxers before and after their bout, a spokesman told the Daily News

Most state commissions have boxers submit to only urine tests before and after a fight. The Texas agency doesn't even do that. Its executive director, William Kuntz, can order a drug screen for boxers if there is "good cause." But Susan Stanford, a public information officer for the department, doesn't envision that happening for this fight, even though Pacquiao has come under increased scrutiny of late over the issue of performance-enhancing drugs. "At the present time, no drug testing will be required of the boxers," she told The News Thursday. "We don't see rumors as good cause. There is a medical examination before the fight, but that doesn't include drug testing."

Arum said he chose to stage the fight in Texas for the amenities, not the lack of drug testing. "I always assumed (that Texas) did drug testing, but I know for sure that the WBO insists on that," Arum said in a phone interview. "The reason the fight is in Texas is because it's in Cowboys Stadium, not because of the (lack of) drug testing."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2010/02/26/2010-02-26_no_test_issues_for_manny_fight.html#ixzz0gdhpb9LS

Testing for drugs after the fight is not Mandatory in Texas, Just if they choose to. (Making testing guide lines worse)

Ownage of epic proportions.

/Thread

[Check_hooks]

Floyd didn't take a single blood or Urine test in over a year. Pacquiao took a Test not even 2 months ago.

How do we know Floyd wasn't roiding up in that year where he was inactive? He says he want to clean up the sport and force people to take the test but he himself wont even take the test.

[ThePrince]

Its Tested For and is Banned In Nevada

It's not tested for or banned by USADA/WADA, so the wall of text you posted is irrelevant.

Protect our fighters, ban lidocaine/xylocaine, gold standard my ass, take the (lidocaine) test Floyd, so on and so forth

[check hook]

It's not tested for or banned by USADA/WADA, so the wall of text you posted is irrelevant.

Protect our fighters, ban lidocaine/xylocaine, gold standard my ass, take the (lidocaine) test Floyd, so on and so forth

Actually it is relevant because in addition to USADA/WADA testing the fighters still undergo the ****ty testing the NSAC does...........