is david haye's power overrated at heavyweight ?

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  • J.R
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    #21
    What MiB said, somewhat.

    Doesn't mean however that he can't stop Wlad, after all that is, all that matters.

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    • Faerun
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      #22
      Originally posted by Boxing Scene
      Don't forget Ruiz had been hurt by Golota previous to this fight. He was completely shot in this fight.
      You've probably seen this one before:




      What's your verdict on that? Haye made him do the chicken dance with literally a single shot without wearing Valuev down beforehand.

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        #23
        Originally posted by iJohn Locke
        What MiB said, somewhat.

        Doesn't mean however that he can't stop Wlad, after all that is, all that matters.
        Peter couldn't stop Wlad on two different occasions. Haye is nor better no has he fought better opposition than Peter has. That is just a fact. Haye has no one like James Toney on his resume, and this was before Toney was shot as a heavyweight.

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        • paypayvay
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          #24
          Originally posted by Faerun
          You've probably seen this one before:




          What's your verdict on that? Haye made him do the chicken dance with literally a single shot without wearing Valuev down beforehand.


          how do you know valuev had a good chin at all ? he never fought a legit puncher

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          • Ray*
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            #25
            Its difficult to gauge IMO but wobbling Valuev with a little left might say something, Am sure he has a powerful right hand due to the way he tends to throw and land it but is that even enough to hurt Wlad? Lets wait and see..

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              #26
              Originally posted by Boxing Scene
              Peter couldn't stop Wlad on two different occasions. Haye is nor better no has he fought better opposition than Peter has. That is just a fact. Haye has no one like James Toney on his resume, and this was before Toney was shot as a heavyweight.
              Excuse me, 'Boxing Scene Staff' <--- LMAO BTW, but what has that got to do with anything, in the way of a reply to what I said???

              Haye's HW power has been over estimated yes, but it doesn't mean he can't stop Wlad, end of story.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Rip Chudd
                I think he has the power to hurt Wlad. I don't think he'll 1 punch ko him. I was actually thinking about the peter fight the other day. Peter put him down several times and couldn't knock him out. I just don't see Haye being able to win this fight at all honestly.
                You are exactly right about the fight. Klitschko gave Peter a boxing lesson, and loads of punishment. The 3 KDs were .....#1) a blatant rabbit punch.....#2) a missed left hook and a rtd grab shoulder push......#3) a desperate rush making Klitschko backpedal so quickly that he tripped backwards against the ropes, and bounced down onto the canvas. The punch, if it landed at all, barelz grazed him and didn't move his head at all. He got up immediately by the count of 2 and continure dhis lesson.

                The commentators all mentio0ned that the KD's were fake, as they occurred, and Klitschko, in his after fight comments, made that point that even with all the fouls and rabbit punches, he still showed that his chin was good and............

                The ref Randy Neumann must be a s blind as a bat in daylight.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by iJohn Locke
                  Excuse me, 'Boxing Scene Staff' <--- LMAO BTW, but what has that got to do with anything, in the way of a reply to what I said???

                  Haye's HW power has been over estimated yes, but it doesn't mean he can't stop Wlad, end of story.


                  lol it has everything to do with what you said


                  if sam peter couldn't do it , david haye can't , end of story

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                  • Gojira
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                    #29
                    at this thread. Haye is one the hardest punchers in the sport.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by edgarg
                      You are exactly right about the fight. Klitschko gave Peter a boxing lesson, and loads of punishment. The 3 KDs were .....#1) a blatant rabbit punch.....#2) a missed left hook and a rtd grab shoulder push......#3) a desperate rush making Klitschko backpedal so quickly that he tripped backwards against the ropes, and bounced down onto the canvas. The punch, if it landed at all, barelz grazed him and didn't move his head at all. He got up immediately by the count of 2 and continure dhis lesson.

                      The commentators all mentio0ned that the KD's were fake, as they occurred, and Klitschko, in his after fight comments, made that point that even with all the fouls and rabbit punches, he still showed that his chin was good and............

                      The ref Randy Neumann must be a s blind as a bat in daylight.
                      I thought it was Smoger who reffed first Wlad/Peter fight?

                      Anyway, Haye does have good power, he tends to get good leverage on his punches, as his technique is both serving and visiously flawed. Whenever he misses, he is wide open and the fact that he was fighting guys who were just old and slow with much inferior foot speed had David avoid the punishment for his flaws.
                      He is also explosive enough, as he fights in spurts and therefore not so predictable with his rhythm.

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