Respect James Toney Bitches!

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  • Rockin'
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    #171
    I have always been impressed with the KIDS knowledge and insight. I got yo' back!!!!

    Rockin'

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    • El Jesus
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      #172
      Originally posted by Chet
      Evander is a small heavyweight. Usually weighing in the range of 213 or so pounds. But look at the difference in frame.


      Evander is ****in 6'2 and fought at cruiserweight. Toney is ****ing 5'9. And your right, it has to do with frame/weight, both of which for floyd are small things. Natural weight for a fighter means alot. Its unhealthy to jump up and fight at some ungodly weight, its tough on the body, tough on the everything to excert yourself at some unhealthy level, and youll maximize injury.

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      • Chet
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        #173
        And despite that small frame he is a dominant force at heavyweight. To me that is why he is #1 P4P.

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          #174
          Originally posted by Chet
          And despite that small frame he is a dominant force at heavyweight. To me that is why he is #1 P4P.

          No, you dont understand, Toney's frame is NOT SMALL, hes a short and stocky guy capable of naturally walking around at 230 even at 5'9. Floyd is not stocky, hes a little dude, with a little frame and you can tell by looking at him. Floyd doesnt have nowhere the frame that Toney does. Thats my whole point.

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          • Chet
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            #175
            So then Evander must have a large frame for a heavweight? A guy that weighs in the range of 213 pounds.

            Or are you saying that Toney's frame is not small compared to Holyfield's. Which is it?

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            • Bozo_no no
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              #176
              Originally posted by Chet
              And despite that small frame he is a dominant force at heavyweight. To me that is why he is #1 P4P.

              You are entiled to your opinion.

              But just don't feel lonely being the only one that thinks that.

              Becuase that's clearly the case.

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              • Chet
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                #177
                Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
                You are entiled to your opinion.

                But just don't feel lonely being the only one that thinks that.

                Becuase that's clearly the case.
                That thinks what?

                Toney is not a dominant force at heavyweight?

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                • Bozo_no no
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by Chet
                  That thinks what?

                  Toney is not a dominant force at heavyweight?

                  No, don't play dumb.

                  You're trying to assert he's the # 1 Pound for Pound fighter.

                  Find ONE person who'd agree with that at present.

                  It's all Floyd.

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                  • Chet
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                    #179
                    He is #1 P4P. Look at his frame. Yet he is without a doubt one of the top guys at heavyweight. If you picked James Toney to defeat Wladimir Klitschko, John Ruiz (again), Lamon Brewster, Sam Peter. Nobody in their right mind would think you were making a ridiculous contention.

                    Toney is #3 right now at heavyweight for me. Only behind Vitali and Lamon Brewster.

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                    • Kid Achilles
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                      #180
                      Toney is definitely a top 5 P4P fighter. If he somehow beats Vitali then he's #1 without a doubt IMO. In fact, Floyd really would have to beat a top middleweight to compete with JT beating the man most recognize as...well "the man" at heavyweight.

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