If Mayweather doesn't Dominate, what # P4P does he get?

[ILLuminato]

Right now, The Ring P4P ratings are as follows: 1 Pacquiao 2 Martinez 3 Donaire 4 Marquez

If Mayweather doesn't look invincible against Ortiz and Pacquiao sparks Marquez as he should, how can Mayweather usurp Pacquiao in the P4P ratings?

[Spit Venom]

no domination, no p4p ranking.

Bradley ranked p4p showed Peterson his business, Ortiz failed.
Khan a future p4p fighter managed to keep Maidana of him and boxed his ears, while Ortiz failed big time.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Expect to see him 2nd by the ring after his win, unrightfully so in my opinion.

Still, it's truly amazing how Floyd can come off these type of layoffs and be expected to dominate Ortiz. Just think about that...INSANE right?

[Phenom]

who cares it's just the ring's opinion and money based plus we all already know pound for pound Manny Pacquiao is not really the best fighter in the world.

[ILLuminato]

Expect to see him 2nd by the ring after his win, unrightfully so in my opinion.

Still, it's truly amazing how Floyd can come off these type of layoffs and be expected to dominate Ortiz. Just think about that...INSANE right?

I'm not expecting Mayweather to dominate Ortiz AT ALL. As a matter of fact, Ortiz is a VERY live underdog. We may see a Hopkins-Calzaghe type ordeal.

Defensive fighters like Mayweather and Hopkins tend to have trouble with high-workrate, high pace and pressure fighters, which I expect Ortiz to come out as. Ortiz is an angled southpaw like Pacquiao, which is why Mayweather is fighting him.

Lastly, Mayweather must dominate Ortiz to remain top-3 P4P, otherwise he has no right to it. Do you really think Martinez should be ranked lower than Mayweather?

[-Kev-]

What is looking invincible though?

Like Pacquiao looked against Mosley and still kept his #1 P4P ranking? And decisioning a non-top 10 junior middleweight/welterweight, no where near the P4P 10, and still kept his #2 spot?

Or how Martinez blasted undefeated Dzinzuruk in 8 rounds and destroyed Williams in 2 rounds and only got #2 P4P?

Because to me a win over Ortiz, is better than any win Pacquiao has gotten since Ricky Hatton, imo. Sorry I don't think too highly of Cotto, never did, and predicted Pacquiao would stop Cotto which he did. And I think even less of Margarito at this point, I have Cotto winning that rematch.

[ILLuminato]

who cares it's just the ring's opinion and money based plus we all already know pound for pound Manny Pacquiao is not really the best fighter in the world.

No we don't. Mayweather won't fight him

[IronDanHamza]

Victor Ortiz isn't really a volume puncher.

[Phenom]

No we don't. Mayweather won't fight him

that's irrelevant just look at it this way. if you will favor anybody over pacquiao in a weight class Manny has a belt in then we know Manny Pacquiao is not pound for pound the best fighter in the world

[Doctor_Tenma]

I'm not expecting Mayweather to dominate Ortiz AT ALL. As a matter of fact, Ortiz is a VERY live underdog. We may see a Hopkins-Calzaghe type ordeal.

Defensive fighters like Mayweather and Hopkins tend to have trouble with high-workrate, high pace and pressure fighters, which I expect Ortiz to come out as. Ortiz is an angled southpaw like Pacquiao, which is why Mayweather is fighting him.

Lastly, Mayweather must dominate Ortiz to remain top-3 P4P, otherwise he has no right to it. Do you really think Martinez should be ranked lower than Mayweather?

No, B-Hop and Mayweather type fighters never struggled against that, B-Hop does now simply because his age.

I really wouldn't make that comparison, B-Hop has to fight at a set pace because of his age, had he been younger he would have been able to capitalize against Calzaghe, especially that punching style of Calzaghe's. Floyd ain't that old, his speed, reflexes, conditioning is still well intact. He doesn't have to conserve energy the way Hopkins has to.

I don't know about "must dominate" but I think he'll stop Victor.