If Mayweather doesn't Dominate, what # P4P does he get?

[Spit Venom]

What is looking invincible though?

Like Pacquiao looked against Mosley and still kept his #1 P4P ranking? And decisioning a non-top 10 junior middleweight/welterweight, no where near the P4P 10, and still kept his #2 spot?

Or how Martinez blasted undefeated Dzinzuruk in 8 rounds and destroyed Williams in 2 rounds and only got #2 P4P?

Because to me a win over Ortiz, is better than any win Pacquiao has gotten since Ricky Hatton, imo. Sorry I don't think too highly of Cotto, never did, and predicted Pacquiao would stop Cotto which he did. And I think even less of Margarito at this point, I have Cotto winning that rematch.

sorry; if Clottey had fought Hatton at the time, Clottey would have roughed him up like Judah.

dont think highly of Cotto? basically 98% of todays fighters sucks for you?

[-Kev-]

I'm not expecting Mayweather to dominate Ortiz AT ALL. As a matter of fact, Ortiz is a VERY live underdog. We may see a Hopkins-Calzaghe type ordeal.

Defensive fighters like Mayweather and Hopkins tend to have trouble with high-workrate, high pace and pressure fighters, which I expect Ortiz to come out as. Ortiz is an angled southpaw like Pacquiao, which is why Mayweather is fighting him.

Lastly, Mayweather must dominate Ortiz to remain top-3 P4P, otherwise he has no right to it. Do you really think Martinez should be ranked lower than Mayweather?

Wrong.

Hopkins reduced Calzaghe to just 700 something punches in their fight.

Calzaghe threw 1,000 + against Kessler, 1,000 plus against Lacy, almost 1,000 against Jones vs just 700 against Hopkins. It is actually quite the opposite that Hopkins has trouble with workrate fighters, workrate fighters have trouble with Hopkins.

And it's no different with Mayweather. It is no secret that almost every fighter is reduced to throwing the least amount of punches they have thrown in their fights tracked by compubox, when they fight Mayweather.

Go check in what fight did Shane Mosley threw the least amount of punches in his career tracked by compubox. Go see the same for Marquez and several other fighters.

[Bring It On]

If he wins (which I'm sure he will) he'll be #2. And he deserves it.

[WitherGlove]

I'm not expecting Mayweather to dominate Ortiz AT ALL. As a matter of fact, Ortiz is a VERY live underdog. We may see a Hopkins-Calzaghe type ordeal.

Defensive fighters like Mayweather and Hopkins tend to have trouble with high-workrate, high pace and pressure fighters, which I expect Ortiz to come out as. Ortiz is an angled southpaw like Pacquiao, which is why Mayweather is fighting him.

Lastly, Mayweather must dominate Ortiz to remain top-3 P4P, otherwise he has no right to it. Do you really think Martinez should be ranked lower than Mayweather?

If u think mayweather has problems with pressure maybe u should re-watch the hatton fight, better yet just watch this it's a bad idea to pressure him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fco0PmJX8bw

[-Kev-]

sorry; if Clottey fought Hatton at the time, Clottey would have roughd up him like Judah.

dont think highly of Cotto? basically 98% of todays fighters sucks for you?

LOL look at the list of fighters I support. I support all kinds of fighters and many more who are not even on that list. I don't think highly of Cotto and that's just my opinion. If you can't deal with that that then oh well that sucks for you.

[Doctor_Tenma]

If u think mayweather has problems with pressure maybe u should re-watch the hatton fight, better yet just watch this it's a bad idea to pressure him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fco0PmJX8bw

Or the Jesus Chavez fight, Chavez applied extreme amount of pressure on Floyd, he really came with it that night. Floyd didn't fold, he laid against the ropes and countered.

[WitherGlove]

Or the Jesus Chavez fight, Chavez applied extreme amount of pressure on Floyd, he really came with it that night. Floyd didn't fold, he laid against the ropes and countered.

I keep telling people Floyd may be defense but he changes depending on the fight, thinking pressure will win over Floyd is not the way to go. Most guys that have tried to pressure him have been TKO or KO'd.

[$tate of Mind]

No worse than 3rd, look at how ****ty Manny looked against Clottey and Mosley, how did that affect him?

[Spit Venom]

LOL look at the list of fighters I support. I support all kinds of fighters and many more who are not even on that list. I don't think highly of Cotto and that's just my opinion. If you can't deal with that that then oh well that sucks for you.

you misunderstood me, I dont give a damn what somebody thinks of cotto, clottey or tony. my point was if you think cotto wasnt a better competitor than hatton for Pac, then all of Pacs recent competition isnt worth a damn.n

[mrlopez]

i think

dominate and outclass are the words that should be used.

Do i think FMJ will dominate Ortiz? No

Do i think FMJ will outclass Ortiz? Yes and will win a UD 116-112