Antonio Tarver should move to heavyweight

[Hitman932]

Not against Ruiz but possibly against some other guys.

as was the case with Roy, he fought Ruiz for a reason

[Hitman932]

Why dont you learn a little about why what Jones did was so impressive before you talk ****. Jones started his carreer at 153. Tarver has been 175 all his life and regularly walk around, when not fighting, above the cruiserweight weight limit.

first of all im only half serious, i dont really want tarver to move up.

it just pisses me off that roy jones jr gets to say he was heavyweight champ cause he handpicked the one guy he could beat.

just trying to make the point that a lot of guys could beat john ruiz and they arent all heavyweights

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

Roy Jones didn't hand[ick ****. PPL thought Ruiz was a legit threat and Roy was serious as hell about the fight. Lennox was busy at the time and Ruiz ahd beaten Holyfield.

Ruiz would own Tarver, I promise you that. If Tarver gets gassed from Roy's feints how the hell will he deal with Ruiz's mugging tactics all night?

[HipsterRan]

Tarver would have no power at Heavyweight, and unlike Toney and Jones who moves alot ! Tarver would get hit more by Ruiz , Ruiz would KO Tarver !

[Guest]

Not against Ruiz but possibly against some other guys.

Sorry, but this entire thread is utterly ridiculous. Why has this thread been posted NOW?

Let me guess... is it because Antonio beat an (old) Roy, therefore logic dictates anyone Roy could beat Antonio could also?

Roy beat Ruiz by using speed and reflexes. Not Antonio's game. Toney? His chin is made out of a concrete breeze block. With very few exceptions, anyone who isn't a natural heavyweight has no business being there. And anyone who thinks a relatively light-hitting Tarver would be able to hurt Ruiz is deluding themselves. Atonio would steal six rounds max before getting laid out.

[vB Martin]

I don't get the notion that Tarver must move up to prove his worth. Bernard Hopkins stayed at middleweight his entire career and no one takes anything away from him for not moving up to light heavy.

The difference is, Middleweight has never had long periods where it's been short of real talent. In modern times, Light-heavweight has short spurts where there is more than one or two talented fighters, otherwise it's a just a good division for someone with real talent to go and sit on belts for a while.
If Tarver wants to be remembered for Greatness, he has to do more than rule a division where he has only a few good fights to make.

[RAESAAD]

Tarver would have no power at Heavyweight, and unlike Toney and Jones who moves alot ! Tarver would get hit more by Ruiz , Ruiz would KO Tarver !

I disagree and also will add that I personally believe Tarver hits harder than Jones for sure and probably Toney as well.

[vB Martin]

Roy Jones didn't handpick ****. PPL thought Ruiz was a legit threat and Roy was serious as hell about the fight. Lennox was busy at the time and Ruiz ahd beaten Holyfield.

You're kidding, right? Didn't handpick the slowest, most plodding, easiest for a fast, mobile guy to beat heavyweight?

Lennox was busy at the time, but Byrd wasn't. That would have been a much more challenging fight for Roy. While I don't think that Byrd is a great champion, at the time, he was a mirror image of Roy. I think Roy would have come out on top, being the slightly slicker and faster, but it wouldn't have been as easy for him, which is why he never fought the fight.

Sometimes on here you actually say things where it sounds like you know what you're talking about. This isn't one of them.

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

Puhleeeze, man. Spare me the bs. Half the fans on here have as little respect for Byrd as they do Ruiz. Fact is, many half the experts and fans were picking Ruiz to whip and KO Jones.

Chris byrd hits like a girl and that fight was not in demand by any stretch of the imagination. It is you my friend who is not seeming intelligent in this case.

[tino]

tarver cant even move up to cruiser , mormeck would steamroll him , braithwaithe hits too hard , only o neil bell is vulnerable