Does a Mayweather vs Cotto fight interest you at this stage?

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  • jrosales13
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    #101
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    All I see are people hating on Cotto because he beat "nobodies." Seriously, all the "nobodies" he beat like Malignaggi, Quintana, Torres, Foreman ALL of them had 0 losses. Foreman was supposed to box his "bum/wased up ass" now Foreman is garbage and who beat him first? Same for Quintana and Paulie yet he was the first to beat them all, and NOW they are garbage. He beat Chop-Chop and big deal if he got hurt, so did Floyd though not as badly Floyd even admitted as much in the Shane fight. Cotto has beat the version of Shane Mosley who was still relevant, 2 years before Marg, 3 years before Floyd and 4 before Manny.

    So Cotto's struggled in some fights... um yea, thats what happens when you face people who are good fighters. Floyd struggled against Castillo and would struggle against Margarito and especially Manny. As far as the topic, Mayweather himself gives away people who have at least a decent shot of beating him, thus why he never fought Marg, Cotto and Manny. They all have a decent shot of beating Marg would outwork him as Floyd isn't going to be hurting that chin ever. Cotto has never lost to a "boxer" and Floyd isn't about to come forward against any fighter, especially since he didn't even do it against JMM. Would I favor Cotto? No, but I'd give him a very good chance, anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot and doesn't know **** about styles.
    "Beating nobodies" has nothing to do with it.

    Is because a group that belong to an idiotic fan base want to hate on the guy cuz' the Floyd fight never happen for whatever reason.

    If Floyd would have fought him. Then you wouldn't read the dumbass comments that you have been reading in this thread.

    For example and old done Oscar "whoops" "takes Cotto soul" crap.

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    • Beater_of_ass
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      #102
      As for Ortiz... All I see people saying are he is in his prime, well so was Clottey and Foreman but because its Cotto they are garbage? Ortiz QUIT to Maidana and got a draw against Peterson, and he beat a hypejob in Berto who went life and death with Luis Collazo and probably lost that fight too. Then, he had fought 1 round in 13 months, you guys are just as ****** as Floyd. If you have to ride the "at least he's young and in his prime train" to validate the fight that alone is just sad. Manny is fighting the #5 P4P for the 3rd time, so what if he is old, he's like 3 years older than Manny big deal. Marquez passed up 2 rematches to face Manny and now because he accepted Manny is fighting an old man? None of you know your asses from your elbows.

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      • ny123
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        #103
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        He has earned it more so than any other WW right now. What WW deserves a shot at either Pac or Floyd more than Ortiz?

        No one...

        Now I agree it's the right timing for this fight. Not necessary that it's a great match up. Because, IMO it isn't. But, its the right timing and the best fight that can be made at WW that doesn't involve Pacquiao.

        Being a name gets overrated IMO. Just because you have a name doesn't mean you should get a fight against a top fighter. If the timing isn't right then it's no good. But, if the timing is right then make it happen.

        Right now, Floyd-Cotto the timing is not right. That ship has sailed.

        Floyd-Ortiz the timing is just perfect.
        Out of the current ww's Ortiz is the only option i agree. I also agree at this point Ortiz makes as much sense as anyone not named Pac or Martinez. I get your point but to say Cotto has to earn a Mayweather fight while Ortiz is given it by beating Berto just seems wrong.

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        • Heeb
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          #104
          It wouldn't be a bad fight, but I'm not particularly interested in it. It wouldn't be competitive.

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            #105
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
            Oscar's ATG jab shreds open Miguel's infamous paper face.

            Maybe it is you who is putting the Oscar who fought manny into these fantasy match ups. When did Oscar ever do you wrong besides outboxing Tito?
            LOL @ "ATG jab" are you being sarcastic or just trolling?

            The one who fought Manny? What? What are you babbling about? Did you even watch the sport? Or again are you just trolling?

            Outboxing someone for 8 rounds(and not winning every single round) is great. But, too bad he couldn't do it for 12. I mean that was a championship fight not a fight of 2 up coming fighters who are still on the 8 rounders stage.

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              #106
              ortiz has a better chance than shotto

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              • Beater_of_ass
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                #107
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                Oscar's ATG jab shreds open Miguel's infamous paper face.

                Maybe it is you who is putting the Oscar who fought manny into these fantasy match ups. When did Oscar ever do you wrong besides outboxing Tito?
                He lost to Mosley twice, Manny, Hopkins, Tito and Floyd. If Clottey never won any big fights WTF do you say about Oscar? Seriously Oscar is the most overrated boxer in history, for real. They guy gave us exciting fights, but he never won those fights for a reason. And outboxing Tito isn't a hard thing to do, he all he did was just follow his opponent around and Oscar still found a way to lose the fight like he always did.

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                • STRUGG
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                  #108
                  yes........becaused floyd ducked him for too long............*****s getting owned..........Cotto fight leading

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    LOL @ "ATG jab" are you being sarcastic or just trolling?

                    The one who fought Manny? What? What are you babbling about? Did you even watch the sport? Or again are you just trolling?

                    Outboxing someone for 8 rounds(and not winning every single round) is great. But, too bad he couldn't do it for 12. I mean that was a championship fight not a fight of 2 up coming fighters who are still on the 8 rounders stage.
                    Oscar who came off Mayorga victory and fought Floyd whoops Cotto.

                    Oscar is an iron chinned hero. Cotto has an infamous paper face.

                    Oscar has a better jab, hook, and right hand.

                    Oscar has better defense and balance.

                    Oscar has more power and handspeed.

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                    • jrosales13
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by ny123
                      Out of the current ww's Ortiz is the only option i agree. I also agree at this point Ortiz makes as much sense as anyone not named Pac or Martinez. I get your point but to say Cotto has to earn a Mayweather fight while Ortiz is given it by beating Berto just seems wrong.
                      It seems wrong. Because, we giving Cotto the benefit of the doubt. We seeing him as what he has done. What he has accomplished in the sport.

                      And, we see how Ortiz has acted in the past.

                      But, right now, at this time, Ortiz has earned the right and the timing for Cotto is not right now. That ship has sailed. Timing is very important bro.

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