Does a Mayweather vs Cotto fight interest you at this stage?

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  • jrosales13
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    #91
    Originally posted by tatangb45
    Cotto has to do all that to be worthy of fighting FMJ but not Ortiz.
    Umm...Ortiz already did it...So what are you talking about?

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      #92
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Umm...Ortiz already did it...So what are you talking about?
      What do you mean Ortiz already did it?

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        #93
        Originally posted by Hi Hater
        IMO Mayweather vs Cotto at this stage is a ****** fight. I don't know why so many people continue to insist that Floyd should fight Cotto. Why should Floyd fight Cotto? Unfortunately, Cotto has been damaged goods since the Margarito fight. Let's break down who Cotto has beat since the Margarito fight. Jennings (Please), Clottey (Clottey loses all his big fights and arguably beat Cotto), Foreman (Probably his best win of the bunch but Yuri is FAR from elite, Mayorga (Lol). This doesn't look like a guy who can compete with elite fighters anymore to me. I think most must only say that a Cotto Mayweather fight interests them so they could bash Floyd, there's no point. I'm a huge Floyd fan but I'd be pissed if he signed to fight Cotto! Floyd is better than that, Ortiz is a MUCH better opponent.
        yes...it would be a very interesting fight.....not a ****** fight.....it would be just cotto vs pbf ......forget about the past or previous fights they had with other fighters....styles make fights and it would be a thriller...

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          #94
          Originally posted by ny123
          What do you mean Ortiz already did it?
          Well considering he's the best WW not named Floyd or Pac. How doesn't he deserve the shot at one or the other. If not him, what other WW does?

          He just got done beat the #3 rank WW. So hasn't he done enough to be worthy of a fight against the #1 or #2 WW?

          What more needs to be done?

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            #95
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Well considering he's the best WW not named Floyd or Pac. How doesn't he deserve the shot at one or the other. If not him, what other WW does?

            He just got done beat the #3 rank WW. So hasn't he done enough to be worthy of a fight against the #1 or #2 WW?

            What more needs to be done?
            The dude said Cotto would have to beat Margarito and Pac first before he earned a shot at Floyd and you said Ortiz did that already which didnt make sense to me. I got what your trying to say now and as far as ratings go and available opponents i dont think this is a bad match up but its just the right time and the right match ups that allowed Ortiz to be ranked as high as he is now and with only one ww win against a guy who was decent but not great im not so sure he truly has "earned" this.

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              #96
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              SRL barely got the KO on Hearns.

              Hagler had him done in 3 rounds.

              So what exactly does this mean?

              Prime Oscar is the much better fighter than any version of Cotto. Prime Cotto is better fighter than that version of Oscar. That version of Oscar is NOT much better than today Cotto. Today Cotto is much better than today Oscar.
              Oscar takes Cotto's soul.

              Cotto goes into panic after realizing Oscar has a better jab and hook.

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                #97
                Originally posted by ny123
                The dude said Cotto would have to beat Margarito and Pac first before he earned a shot at Floyd and you said Ortiz did that already which didnt make sense to me. I got what your trying to say now and as far as ratings go and available opponents i dont think this is a bad match up but its just the right time and the right match ups that allowed Ortiz to be ranked as high as he is now and with only one ww win against a guy who was decent but not great im not so sure he truly has "earned" this.
                He has earned it more so than any other WW right now. What WW deserves a shot at either Pac or Floyd more than Ortiz?

                No one...

                Now I agree it's the right timing for this fight. Not necessary that it's a great match up. Because, IMO it isn't. But, its the right timing and the best fight that can be made at WW that doesn't involve Pacquiao.

                Being a name gets overrated IMO. Just because you have a name doesn't mean you should get a fight against a top fighter. If the timing isn't right then it's no good. But, if the timing is right then make it happen.

                Right now, Floyd-Cotto the timing is not right. That ship has sailed.

                Floyd-Ortiz the timing is just perfect.

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                  #98
                  All I see are people hating on Cotto because he beat "nobodies." Seriously, all the "nobodies" he beat like Malignaggi, Quintana, Torres, Foreman ALL of them had 0 losses. Foreman was supposed to box his "bum/wased up ass" now Foreman is garbage and who beat him first? Same for Quintana and Paulie yet he was the first to beat them all, and NOW they are garbage. He beat Chop-Chop and big deal if he got hurt, so did Floyd though not as badly Floyd even admitted as much in the Shane fight. Cotto has beat the version of Shane Mosley who was still relevant, 2 years before Marg, 3 years before Floyd and 4 before Manny.

                  So Cotto's struggled in some fights... um yea, thats what happens when you face people who are good fighters. Floyd struggled against Castillo and would struggle against Margarito and especially Manny. As far as the topic, Mayweather himself gives away people who have at least a decent shot of beating him, thus why he never fought Marg, Cotto and Manny. They all have a decent shot of beating Marg would outwork him as Floyd isn't going to be hurting that chin ever. Cotto has never lost to a "boxer" and Floyd isn't about to come forward against any fighter, especially since he didn't even do it against JMM. Would I favor Cotto? No, but I'd give him a very good chance, anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot and doesn't know **** about styles.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                    Oscar takes Cotto's soul.

                    Cotto goes into panic after realizing Oscar has a better jab and hook.
                    What version are you talking about? That old done version of Oscar?

                    GTFOH.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      What version are you talking about? That old done version of Oscar?

                      GTFOH.

                      Oscar's ATG jab shreds open Miguel's infamous paper face.

                      Maybe it is you who is putting the Oscar who fought manny into these fantasy match ups. When did Oscar ever do you wrong besides outboxing Tito?

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