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  • Beater_of_ass
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    #141
    Originally posted by -Top Rank-
    I agree with this post 100%. I don't know about anyone else, but when I'm talking about Mayweather vs Cotto, I'm referring to this fight happening if Cotto is able to get past Margarito and Angulo/Cintron. If he does that, then It's safe to say he is the #1 JMW or top 3 at worse.....unless Williams does something equal or better at that weight class.
    So who is at the top of 154 now? Williams? He asked for a 157 catchweight to face Williams and got KTFO. Three pounds over the limit is the same at 154 to me and he got blasted, Cintron jumped out of the ring against KTFO guy. Angulo hasn't beaten ANYONE and actually LOST to Cintron, seriously give some better names than that. And Margarito... he fought at a lame ass catchweight but that guy got blasted too. The only on the list who even beat a champ IS Cotto. Its a weak division but its safe to say Cotto is probably the most talented of them all. I agree though he needs to get past Marg but once he does he only has 1 loss unavenged, I don't know how Cotto gets **** on for a guy who lost two times and guys like Gatti get a ****load of credit for having 9+ losses, or guys like Ortiz whose had 1 average win in YEARS... truly idiots on this site.

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      #142
      Originally posted by -Top Rank-
      Ortiz beats Cotto, based on what, how good he looked against Maidana and Peterson?
      Those fights weren't even at 147 so what's your point? I think Ortiz vs Cotto at 147 right now is at best a 50/50 fight. Cotto aint no world beater.

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        #143
        Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
        So who is at the top of 154 now? Williams? He asked for a 157 catchweight to face Williams and got KTFO. Three pounds over the limit is the same at 154 to me and he got blasted, Cintron jumped out of the ring against KTFO guy. Angulo hasn't beaten ANYONE and actually LOST to Cintron, seriously give some better names than that. And Margarito... he fought at a lame ass catchweight but that guy got blasted too. The only on the list who even beat a champ IS Cotto. Its a weak division but its safe to say Cotto is probably the most talented of them all. I agree though he needs to get past Marg but once he does he only has 1 loss unavenged, I don't know how Cotto gets **** on for a guy who lost two times and guys like Gatti get a ****load of credit for having 9+ losses, or guys like Ortiz whose had 1 average win in YEARS... truly idiots on this site.
        To be honest Cotto is the #1 JMW IMO right now. I just think beating Margarito and a win over Angulo/Cintron sure that will be the consensus

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          #144
          Originally posted by Hi Hater
          Wtf are you talking about? This is about Cotto not being the same since the Plasterito fight, which is why Floyd fighting him now would be b1tch made. Whether the version of Oscar Floyd beat beats this version of Cotto is irrelevant to the topic. Did you even read the OP?
          Did I bring Oscar up? Go take your sensitive ass and write this to the poster who brought Oscar up.
          Last edited by jrosales13; 06-19-2011, 09:46 PM.

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            #145
            I think Cotto would do better than Ortiz against Floyd.

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              #146
              Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

              Cotto doesn't have that kind of ATG talent that SRL, Hagler, and Hearns does.
              LOL @ your lack of reading comprehension.

              Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
              I mentioned Oscar having a better chin, defense, balance, handspeed, power, jab, hook, and right hand, but it is in your nature to ignore the facts. This is what happens when you're a 27 year old who doesn't look at the world beyond Miguel Cotto's nutsack.
              First, you need to learn the difference between fact and opinion.

              LOL @ me being on Cotto nutsack. Yea my stance on Margarito-Cotto and Cotto being a borderline HOF'er proves that I'm on Cotto nutsack

              No idiot, if you were beyond Floyd nutsack you would realize how idiotic and ****** you sound. It's OK if you wasn't watching the sport back then. But, don't pretend like you were.

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                #147
                Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                Well... considering he ****ing squashed Jennings like he was supposed to, that was a dumb name to use. He's been more competitive against Manny than anyone since JMM. As for Clottey he had a horrific cut and no trainer whose performance are you basing Ortiz off of? His lone MAYBE decent win vs Berto? I already stated why the Berto win wasn't even that good and Ortiz has had more life and death struggles with far lesser fighters than the ones Cotto did, nice try though.
                LMAO Jennings really? Who the hell is Jennings? You're either a fanboy and idiot or both. What Ortiz did against Berto is more impressive than anything that Cotto has done since losing to Margarito. If Clottey wasn't such a mental midget and actually let his hands go in the last couple of rounds he beats Cotto hands down. Yeah, carry on about how beating Jennings, Clottey, Foreman, and Mayorga means that Cotto is ready to give Floyd a competitive fight. MAN PLEASE!

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by tatangb45
                  1]Practically all WW fights use 8 oz. gloves.
                  2] If 20X20 is the standard in Nevada, why would Pac's lawyers put that in the stipulations?
                  3]How can there be a contract when one party refuses to negotiate?
                  4]If FMJ has never gone above 147 for a WW bout and has no intention of going over, then what harm would it do to ask for additional penalties? Pac could have asked for a 100m and it will still be a meaningless demand.
                  Now that Pac has gone public, all FMJ has to do is say, "So now you have accepted my terms. Send me the contract with that stipulation and I will sign it." You can not expect Pac to keep on repeating himself to FMJ's satisfaction which in turn could give FMJ another excuse to ask for the bigger share of the prize since he can now claim that Pac is getting desperate.
                  1. No the standard is 10oz gloves for a WW fight. Unless both fighters agree to wear 8oz gloves.

                  2. 20x20 is the standard in Nevada. Pac had a 24x24 ring against Clottey in Texas.

                  3. Easy, I man they still sent a contract over to the Mayweather camp with a request of a 14 day cutoff or 7 day cutoff depending on who you believe from Arum or Koncz. This was while Floyd was "refusing to negotiate" or "vacation". The point is that didn't stop them from sending contracts over. So until they send a contract over with them agreeing with no cutoff then all crap he says publicly about agreeing to no cutoff is nothing but hollow words.

                  4. If Pac is not hiding anything then why not just take the test with no cutoff. Why say they will only do if the commission makes it a standard rule. That "who is Floyd to go far and beyond the commission". Same thing for Pac..."Who is Pac to go far and beyond the commission"? I mean if they want the commission to handle the drug testing then let the commission handle the penalty for coming in overweight. Why the double standard contradiction?

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                  • STRUGG
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                    #149
                    floyd should fight him at 154..........what we learned from floyd though......he will duck Cotto at 140...........147..........and 154..................what a douche bag floyd is.........

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      LOL @ your lack of reading comprehension.



                      First, you need to learn the difference between fact and opinion.

                      LOL @ me being on Cotto nutsack. Yea my stance on Margarito-Cotto and Cotto being a borderline HOF'er proves that I'm on Cotto nutsack

                      No idiot, if you were beyond Floyd nutsack you would realize how idiotic and ****** you sound. It's OK if you wasn't watching the sport back then. But, don't pretend like you were.
                      Why so defensive and sensitive about Oscar beating Cotto?

                      And then you have the nerve to claim you aren't on Cotto's nutsack.

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