James Toney is the best heavyweight today.

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  • THE REAL NINJA
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    #11
    yup the best today hope he gets a rematch with ruiz and gets his damn title back

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    • Konstantin
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      #12
      I laugh out loud at all of you who say he can beat Vitali.

      Want to tell me how instead of 'he'll find a way"?

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      • Nautilus
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        #13
        Vitaliy and Toney are different species of people.

        One is so much bigger than the other -- their fight will be a very bad matchup stylistically.

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        • punchers_chance
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          #14
          I honestly don't know how he would, but let's instead explore how Vitali, a slow, big, heavyweight, would be able to hit a snaller, faster, more mobile heavyweight who has incredible defensive skill, can fight against the ropes, and actually moves his torso to avoid shots.

          Toney would give Klitscko fits and would'nt get caught headhunting.

          Body punches would most likely be the key for Toney. Vitali has a chin of granite anyway, so Toney circles Vitali and ****s him to the body, eventually causing serious damage, maybe breaking a rib, and there you go. Knockouts do not have to be punches to the dome.

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          • Nautilus
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            #15
            Originally posted by punchers_chance
            I honestly don't know how he would, but let's instead explore how Vitali, a slow, big, heavyweight, would be able to hit a snaller, faster, more mobile heavyweight who has incredible defensive skill, can fight against the ropes, and actually moves his torso to avoid shots.

            Toney would give Klitscko fits and would'nt get caught headhunting.

            Body punches would most likely be the key for Toney. Vitali has a chin of granite anyway, so Toney circles Vitali and ****s him to the body, eventually causing serious damage, maybe breaking a rib, and there you go. Knockouts do not have to be punches to the dome.

            Vitaliy will jab all night, and if Toney tries to attack , he will punch. Vitaliy won't fight Toney at a close distance.

            It will be a boring fight.

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            • Konstantin
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              #16
              Originally posted by punchers_chance
              I honestly don't know how he would, but let's instead explore how Vitali, a slow, big, heavyweight, would be able to hit a snaller, faster, more mobile heavyweight
              Are you serious? Toney just wieghed something like 10 lbs less than Klitchko did in his last bout. If they were to sprint I would put my car on the bet against the butterbean Toney. Vitali is smart, not necisserally as smart as Toney, but does he have to be? All he has to do is keep Toney at the end of his jab.

              This win against Guinn showed more about Dominick than about Toney... And do you think he can stand up to the power? He has yet to taste real heavywieght power.

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              • punchers_chance
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                #17
                You asked for reasons, and I gave them.

                Weight aside, Toney is smaller, and is faster than Vitali.

                Vitali is beatable. He isn't superman.

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                • HipsterRan
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                  #18
                  Some of you ,are putting way to much into this fight tonight, he beat Guinn, come on ! matching him with wlad or his big bro after this fight , Toney has no power as a HW ,the kilts would beat the **** out of Toney , TONEY has skill ,but thats not going to get the job done if he fight Wlad or Vitali !

                  I would like to see Toney vs Shannon Briggs for his next fight and if he wins Fight Wlad ! Toney has to fight someone big and that has power so Briggs is a great match to get ready for the klits !

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                  • Konstantin
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by punchers_chance
                    You asked for reasons, and I gave them.

                    Weight aside, Toney is smaller, and is faster than Vitali.

                    Vitali is beatable. He isn't superman.

                    Ok well we just gave you counter reasons which in our opinion beat yours. Counter ours.

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                    • Parodius
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Konstantin
                      Are you serious? Toney just wieghed something like 10 lbs less than Klitchko did in his last bout. If they were to sprint I would put my car on the bet against the butterbean Toney. Vitali is smart, not necisserally as smart as Toney, but does he have to be? All he has to do is keep Toney at the end of his jab.

                      This win against Guinn showed more about Dominick than about Toney... And do you think he can stand up to the power? He has yet to taste real heavywieght power.
                      Toney will not have any problem with Vitali's power, also Toney is fat, but his hand speed is much quicker then Vitali. The only way I see Toney having problem with Vitali, is the height difference. But I think Toney can use many body punches against Vitalli. I think Vitali is toughest fight for Toney, but I give Toney a better chance then anyone else. I don't think any other HV will beat Vitali, I think Toney is the only man I see having a chance beating Vitali.

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