It's in the books: Tarver goes down in history as the better man

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  • Tha Greatest
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    #21
    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
    For anyone who says, "Jones would have won x number of years ago", I'll gladly throw out the opinion that Tarver would have won because they both carry the same amount of weight: NONE.

    Fact of the matter is Tarver won the series, ruined Roy's career, and sent his ***** ass into retirement. Roy couldn't beat a guy that truly wanted it when it came down to it. Tarver has made himself a legend tonight and he will always be remembered as the guy who owned Roy Jones Jr.
    He owned a OLD Roy Jones...

    I'm sorry to say but Tarver never had to lose 25 pounds when he had only 6% body fat...

    I guess Hector Camacho is better than Sugar Ray Leonard because he owned him too.

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    • 02Z
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      #22
      Originally posted by DiegoFuego
      I just wanted to add that Tarver has beat Roy twice and is therefore a better fighter. That's all I got to say.
      Better fighter is funny. Let's take a small look at some history.

      Roy Jones Jr: 50 fights before his first real loss, that Griffin DQ was bull****. Griffin lost that fight and he proved he was no match for Roy in the rematch.

      Antonio Tarver: 16 fights and then loses to Eric Harding by UD. Harding was knocked out by Jones.

      How about their records? We'll use the first 27 fights of RJJ for comparison since that's all the fights Tarver has.

      Tarver 24-3-0 (18ko's)
      Jones 27-0-0 (23ko's)

      How about talent?

      Power- Jones edges Tarver. 77% of Jones fights were knockouts compared to 75% for Tarver. If we use the first 27 fights, Jones wins the power category hands down with 85% of the first 27 being KO's

      Speed- All are compared to Jones when it comes to speed (except for Mayweather Jr.) and Tarver isn't even mentioned in that category.

      Defense- Just look at the record for the first 27 fights, apparently Jones was doing a little more bobbing and weaving. Hell, lets look at the total history. Jones didn't actually lose until his 51st fight.

      So as far as Tarver being a better fighter...history will not show it.

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        #23
        To add onto the previous reply,

        You'll never hear Tarver being referred to as a "great fighter". Yes, he beat RJJ and that is the only reason you will ever hear his name.

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        • Pac Man Fan 83
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          #24
          You Jones nutt huggers amuse me. But I tire of your idiocy and will now retire for the evening.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Tito Fan 83
            You Jones nutt huggers amuse me. But I tire of your idiocy and will now retire for the evening.
            I've already said in a previous post that I dislike RJJ. The post above is just fact. It's just hard for you Tarver nut huggers to accept the fact that he will be in Roy's shadow permanently and will only mentioned when RJJ's name is mentioned. It's as simple as that.

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            • ChrististheAnswer2
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              #26
              Give Tarver his respect, he beat a great fighter in Roy Jones Jr. twice.

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              • 02Z
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                #27
                Originally posted by 02Z
                To add onto the previous reply,

                You'll never hear Tarver being referred to as a "great fighter". Yes, he beat RJJ and that is the only reason you will ever hear his name.

                I already gave him his respect. He beat RJJ, twice. There it is again.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by El_sureņo
                  A man that beat him TWICE when he was WAY past his prime, idiot.
                  Hey ****er loser, you're funny and dumb at the same time. The true sign of an idiot dumbass. The facts are more then convincing. 2-1 in favor of Tarver and whoever contests that is both a fool and a blind dumbass. If you stick to ****** excuses, then wtf! Don't go into boxing. In fact don't go into any sport. Those who give too much excuses when losing just proves they are nothing but a lucky shot.

                  Let's all end this and accept Tarver proved he is the better man.

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                  • DiegoFuego
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                    #29
                    I just wanted to remind everyone that Tarver > Jones.

                    Tarver won 2/3, and Roy fans are STILL making excuses about his age.

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                    • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by InThisCorner
                      Roy Jones Jr would of kicked Tarver's ass about 3 years ago. Styles make fights and Tarver's long, rangy southpaw style is definitely trouble for Roy.
                      More excuses... Roy Jones Junior of 3yrs ago, in proper focus, in the right shape with the right mental attitude would have smashed Tarver to pieces!!!

                      Don't you understand how ****** that sounds?... It's like blind faith in a fighter that doesn't exsist.

                      How many things need to be in Roy's favour for him to win?

                      Just accept it... Jones ain't all that.

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