If JMM beats Pac at 147, how much does that do for Floyds utter domination of JMM?

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  • Bushbaby
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    #11
    Originally posted by studentofthegam
    It would be a huge sway in public opinion and media alike. I say that because when you compound Floyd coming off a lay-off and not losing a round against Marquez, its gonna look really bad for Pac to take that loss. Especially with the majority thinking Pac is so much better now and picked to run over JMM. I dont think people would have such a hard on for Pac/May after that. Floyd would and probably should move to fight Pac's stable mate in Amir Khan or Martinez would be great. Pac cant afford to lose to Marquez and Floyd cant afford to lose to Ortiz. Their both taking big risk that could crush the super fight.
    I hope that's what happens.I hope Floyd looses to Ortiz,that way that crazy Floyd & Pacman are head & shoulders above every other welterweight comes crashing down,forcing Pacman to fight someone not shot,or small but a real welterweight.

    Or that Marquez manages to take a page outa Mosley's book & box & move beautifully to a decision over Pacman to simply prove how overrated he is.There was no reason for a shot Mosley to move himself to surviving a fight against boxing's top offensive machine.

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    • studentofthegam
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      #12
      Originally posted by Bushbaby
      That doesn't matter here on boxing scene though.Remember Pacman was supposed to be the 1st to ko Mosley after Floyd dominated him 2 fights before.when Mosley made Pacman look rather ordinary,they blamed Mosley for lasting the distance against Pacman.U know,like it was actually his fault Pacman doesn't know how to cut a ring off.So my point is that they will find a way to blame Marquez for winning.
      You're right. Most thought I was hating when I said it looked like Pac lost something. If that minimal movement by Mosley frustrated Manny then its gonna be even rougher against JMM who will be firing back and changing angles all at the same time.

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      • The_Golden_Goy
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        #13
        Originally posted by Bushbaby
        I hope that's what happens.I hope Floyd looses to Ortiz,that way that crazy Floyd & Pacman are head & shoulders above every other welterweight comes crashing down,forcing Pacman to fight someone not shot,or small but a real welterweight.

        Or that Marquez manages to take a page outa Mosley's book & box & move beautifully to a decision over Pacman to simply prove how overrated he is.There was no reason for a shot Mosley to move himself to surviving a fight against boxing's top offensive machine.

        how would boxing and moving be taking a page out of Mosleys book? Mosley only moved backwards against Pacquiao.

        and Floyd and Pacman ARE head and shoulders above everyone else around that weight, including Martinez and Marquez

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          #14
          Originally posted by Bushbaby
          I hope that's what happens.I hope Floyd looses to Ortiz,that way that crazy Floyd & Pacman are head & shoulders above every other welterweight comes crashing down,forcing Pacman to fight someone not shot,or small but a real welterweight.

          Or that Marquez manages to take a page outa Mosley's book & box & move beautifully to a decision over Pacman to simply prove how overrated he is.There was no reason for a shot Mosley to move himself to surviving a fight against boxing's top offensive machine.
          You mean how Mosley sailed to a UD loss? 120-108, 120-107, 119-108

          Also, don't forget how JMM boxed his way to a SD loss against Pacman the last time out.

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            #15
            I dont think mayweathers beating of marquez will be remembered as that great just because of the weight difference, where as marquez/pacman was fought at both of their natural weights.

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              #16
              Originally posted by The_Golden_Goy
              how would boxing and moving be taking a page out of Mosleys book? Mosley only moved backwards against Pacquiao.

              and Floyd and Pacman ARE head and shoulders above everyone else around that weight, including Martinez and Marquez
              Even U can't believe that.Call it a hunch but if either Floyd or Pacman's team believed they could beat Martinez,either 1 would have fought him already.Remember Arum said the size difference was too big for Pacman,U know a lame excuse that has no merit especially when both Martinez's & Margarito's fight night weight is almost Identical when they fight at 154.


              Originally posted by BuckToothed
              You mean how Mosley sailed to a UD loss? 120-108, 120-107, 119-108

              Also, don't forget how JMM boxed his way to a SD loss against Pacman the last time out.
              Yes that's exactly what I mean.Mosley went from going to be knocked out cold to surviving by movement alone.Nothing else cause his shot a$$ couldn't let his hands go.

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              • The_Golden_Goy
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                #17
                Originally posted by eubank#1
                I dont think mayweathers beating of marquez will be remembered as that great just because of the weight difference, where as marquez/pacman was fought at both of their natural weights.


                errrmmmm ,.........dont know whether you're up to date on recent news, but JMM v Pacquiao is at welterweight, same as the Floyd v JMM fight

                so yeah....

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                  well,weight WAS an issue,floyd didnt even wanted to do a weight in on fight night,also,styles make fights....just because fighter A beats fighter B,and B beats C doesnt mean C loses to A...i think pretty soon im going back to ********..there are to many idiots in here...no offense!

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                  • The_Golden_Goy
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                    [QUOTE=Bushbaby;10702146]Even U can't believe that.Call it a hunch but if either Floyd or Pacman's team believed they could beat Martinez,either 1 would have fought him already.Remember Arum said the size difference was too big for Pacman,U know a lame excuse that has no merit especially when both Martinez's & Margarito's fight night weight is almost Identical when they fight at 154.

                    Martinez doesnt have the exposure or draw to get a fight with Pacquiao. He needs to get himself a few BIG wins, beating Pwill and Kelly Pavlik DOES NOT make you P4P No.1 or even 2 or 3.

                    His status is over-rated and Martinez can only hope to be remembered as anywhere near as great as Floyd or Pacquiao

                    Floyd eats Martinez for breakfast, Pacquiao would struggle but would ultimately beat Martinez

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The_Golden_Goy
                      errrmmmm ,.........dont know whether you're up to date on recent news, but JMM v Pacquiao is at welterweight, same as the Floyd v JMM fight

                      so yeah....
                      This ^ Im expecting JMM to get knocked out... lol. But look great in the process. Will say a lot about his overall standing p4p and what the weight did to him against floyd. Styles make fights, we know this. Just a lot of fans are too bias to admit it.

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