If JMM beats Pac at 147, how much does that do for Floyds utter domination of JMM?

[The_Golden_Goy]

well,weight WAS an issue,floyd didnt even wanted to do a weight in on fight night,also,styles make fights....just because fighter A beats fighter B,and B beats C doesnt mean C loses to A...i think pretty soon im going back to ********..there are to many idiots in here...no offense!

goodbye then

[Vegan101]

another troll thread by a troll.

[Bushbaby]

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Even U can't believe that.Call it a hunch but if either Floyd or Pacman's team believed they could beat Martinez,either 1 would have fought him already.Remember Arum said the size difference was too big for Pacman,U know a lame excuse that has no merit especially when both Martinez's & Margarito's fight night weight is almost Identical when they fight at 154.

Martinez doesnt have the exposure or draw to get a fight with Pacquiao. He needs to get himself a few BIG wins, beating Pwill and Kelly Pavlik DOES NOT make you P4P No.1 or even 2 or 3.

His status is over-rated and Martinez can only hope to be remembered as anywhere near as great as Floyd or Pacquiao

Floyd eats Martinez for breakfast, Pacquiao would struggle but would ultimately beat Martinez

3 questions for U then,concerning the bold,just 3.What big win did Clottey have when he earned his shot at Pacman??What big win did Margarito have??Finally,what big win did Mosley have to earn his shot at Pacman??There is no way U can answer these without sounding dumb.

[The_Golden_Goy]

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3 questions for U then,concerning the bold,just 3.What big win did Clottey have when he earned his shot at Pacman??What big win did Margarito have??Finally,what big win did Mosley have to earn his shot at Pacman??There is no way U can answer these without sounding dumb.

But Martinez needs to be on the A side of an equation or fight, like Pacquiao/Floyd are. In a Mayweather fight, Floyd is the draw. In a Pacquiao fight, Pacman is the draw. Against PWill and Pavlik, Martinez was not the bigger draw. Against Dzindziruk granted he may have been, but thats no big deal

Martinez needs to be a draw IN HIS OWN RIGHT, which he is not. He NEEDS Pacman or Mayweather to get anywhere near PPV status or being a big draw

Thats how you answer the question, and thus making you sound dumb, and like a nuthugger my friend

[brick wall]

it won't change anything. jmm showed up in a bad shape and uncomfortable fighting at welter against floyd and that impression will never change.

if he will have to beat pac this time he has to morph into a real welter with real welter power and in the best shape of his life.

[Bushbaby]

But Martinez needs to be on the A side of an equation or fight, like Pacquiao/Floyd are. In a Mayweather fight, Floyd is the draw. In a Pacquiao fight, Pacman is the draw. Against PWill and Pavlik, Martinez was not the bigger draw. Against Dzindziruk granted he may have been, but thats no big deal

Martinez needs to be a draw IN HIS OWN RIGHT, which he is not. He NEEDS Pacman or Mayweather to get anywhere near PPV status or being a big draw

Thats how you answer the question, and thus making you sound dumb, and like a nuthugger my friend

Now Ur changing ur tune.Is it draw or big win??But lets ask this,Is Clottey a bigger draw than Martinez??Ohh yeah,why didn't U answer the questions??

[The_Golden_Goy]

it won't change anything. jmm showed up in a bad shape and uncomfortable fighting at welter against floyd and that impression will never change.

if he will have to beat pac this time he has to morph into a real welter with real welter power and in the best shape of his life.

so your saying the 144lm JMM against Floyd will beat no resemblance to the 144lb against Pacquiao????

For what reason? Will JMM be naturally bigger from when he was 35 to when hes 37......No. Will he have found a magical way at being comfortable at the weight....No

You can guarantee the same JMM that fought Floyd will be turning up against Pacman, because JMM will put the weight on and be exactly the same overblown 135lber he was in Sept 2009

FFS at least TRY and come up with a valid point

[The_Golden_Goy]

Now Ur changing ur tune.Is it draw or big win??But lets ask this,Is Clottey a bigger draw than Martinez??

Clottey has been in bigger fights than Martinez for sure, fought better opposition in victory and defeat for sure

the only Martinez is going to be a draw is to get a big win. Which means waiting for Cotto/Marg or Alvarez/JCCjr, and all four of those fighters are a bigger draw than Martinez. FACT

Martinez's time is running out, I dont care if he is a young 35 or whatever, unless he cashes in on his win streak ASAP, someone younger or better is going to beat him within the next two years, which by then he'll be pushing 40.

Anything other way you'd like me to tear apart Martinez in comparison to Pac or Floyd?

[hugh grant]

It does nothing for floyds legacy. JMM has had time to acclimatise and settle into the weight now.
Dont you think JMM would have learnt from the first fight?

[Bushbaby]

Clottey has been in bigger fights than Martinez for sure, fought better opposition in victory and defeat for sure

the only Martinez is going to be a draw is to get a big win. Which means waiting for Cotto/Marg or Alvarez/JCCjr, and all four of those fighters are a bigger draw than Martinez. FACT

Martinez's time is running out, I dont care if he is a young 35 or whatever, unless he cashes in on his win streak ASAP, someone younger or better is going to beat him within the next two years, which by then he'll be pushing 40.

Anything other way you'd like me to tear apart Martinez in comparison to Pac or Floyd?

Wow,seriously??1st off,U said Martinez needed a big win,he ko'd the Punisher & beat the **** outta Pavlik with the coldest 4 piece ever.Then U changed tune & said he needed to be a draw.He's a bigger draw than Clottey.Margarito piggybacked of of Cotto & Pacman's star power in his 2 ppv's.Just like Clottey did.Tear apart Martinez,please,all U did was change tune over & over & U still never answered the question about who Clottey,Margarito or Mosley beat to earn their shot at Pacman,I'm done,ur delusional.