Comments Thread For: Ward vs Froch on October 29, Las Vegas or New York

[IMDAZED]

Hatton was affected most by Mayweather being a MUCH better pro. Time zone? Silly.

LOL. Yeah, I don't understand that. Time zone? I've traveled 5,000 times and for the life of me I don't understand how that would be a reason. It's not like they were fighting some high altitude. Or Hatton arrived a couple hours before fight time. That said, I want this fight in New York, where the UK fans won't have to shell out extra and the east coast people such as myself can purchase a nice seat and enjoy a great matchup.

[Rome-By-Ko]

MSG baby,New York is a great fight town..Get err done please,grand stage for a fight that big..

[crold1]

LOL. Yeah, I don't understand that. Time zone? I've traveled 5,000 times and for the life of me I don't understand how that would be a reason. It's not like they were fighting some high altitude. Or Hatton arrived a couple hours before fight time. That said, I want this fight in New York, where the UK fans won't have to shell out extra and the east coast people such as myself can purchase a nice seat and enjoy a great matchup.

Personally love to see NYC as well. Fighters pay less taxes in Nevada though so I'll understand if they go vegas.

[jrosales13]

Showtime may want Andre Ward to win NOW but if you recall at the start of the Super Six all 3 Americans were favored to not make it past the round robin. It's time to give Ward and Dirrell who were green at the time, their due. Put the fight in NYC and let it go. I don't know why Tunney is *****ing about Ward fighting in the U.S. U.S. fighter always fight in the states because that is where the networks are and that's where the most money is. SHO and HBO are American networks.

The whole *****ing about going on the road and flights etc are a load of crap. Part of sports is going on the road whether you are on a team sport or an individual sport like boxing. Deal with it. Ward beat all these guys and will probably roll to a UD against Froch.

What? I think you're mistaken sir.

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

1. He fights the best and gives it his all. No way to deny this.

2. He finds a way to win.

3. He had to come up the hard way getting no help from Sky and instead chose the root of earning his respect as opposed to being given it.

What's funny is, those are all more meaningful reasons to 'like' him than most of the reasons listed for disliking him (what he says in interviews, his wife).

I've never been a big fan of Cordingley on a personal level (have referred to her as a "harpy" on this very forum), but I've respected how hard she's supported her guy - if you're in his shoes, that's a priceless thing.
It's funny, because when I saw the glimpse of their home-life recently on Fight Camp 360°, I was forced to think they actually make quite a cute, homely couple and seem like two decent people enjoying life together. Made me like Carl even more and even warm to Cordingley a little.


'Liking' prizefighters is a weird one for me. There are some I do fully warm to on that personal level, ofc (Gio Segura is an example of a guy I instantly warmed to when I got a glimpse of his personal character). But there are others -- and I used Mayweather as an example before, because he's currently the most critiqued guy for these reasons -- whose 'thing' or schtick may be partly composed of some elements that don't appeal to me. I recognize it as an illusory thing, though, and I'm able to perceive that there is a strong character and a decent man behind it, a man possessed of qualities I can appreciate and 'like'. The superficial stuff just doesn't bother me.

With Froch, it just seems that you make a point so often of stating how much you dislike him on a personal level, which is atypical of your usually rational style, so I was just curious. LOL, I'm still not much the wiser - but, no biggie.


If you just plain loathe the way he boxes, that's another matter. I guess you must not have much fun watching his fights.

[-Kev-]

Carl Froch is gonna get his ass whooped for 12 rounds.

[-Kev-]

What? I think you're mistaken sir.

Ward was a 15-1 underdog in the tourney. Taylor had just come off those Pavlik losses and KO loss to Froch and was being told to retire, the Abraham fight pretty much did it. Dirrell I forgot where he stood in the Robin Robin at first. But what I do remember is Mikkel Kessler being the favorite to win it all, and I believe Arthur Abraham was second. I am not too sure though. I think Carl Froch was third.

I'm simply going by what I remember in 2009. Just can't remember who was the 3rd favorite to win.

[jrosales13]

Ward was a 15-1 underdog to win the tourney. Taylor had just come off those Pavlik losses and KO loss to Froch and was being told to retire, the Abraham fight pretty much did it. Dirrell I forgot where he stood in the Robin Robin at first. But what I do remember is Mikkel Kessler being the favorite to win it all, and I believe Arthur Abraham was second. I am not too sure though. I think Carl Froch was third.

I'm simply going by what I remember in 2009. Just can't remember who was the 3rd favorite to win.

Whether he was 15-1 underdog or not to win the whole thing or JT losing to whoever is irrelevant.

It is mathematically impossible for all 3 Americans to be favored NOT TO MAKE IT PAST THE ROUND ROBIN.

Not to win but to make it past the round robin.

At least ONE would have to make it past the round robin. Because, 4 goes to the next round. That would leave 3 Europeans and 1 American. So to say ALL 3 AMERICANS were favored NOT to make it to the next round is wrong.

[-Kev-]

Okay I see what you mean. You're right.

Thought we were talking about being favored to win the whole thing.

[Ryn0]

Fighting in the Pacific time zone will have an effect on Froch's body. He'll be feeling as if he's fighting at 4 or 5 AM, a time when he normally sleeps.

Not having to travel made it easier for Ward. The crooked referee Jack Reiss in the first fight made a difference, Kessler was thrown off his game by Ward's deliberate fouling and Jack Reiss constantly getting in Mikkel's face for nothing.

That first fight should have been in Denmark, since Kessler had the WBA title. I belive with an honest referee and Ward being the one who'd have to adjust to the travel, the outcome would have been different.

Froch will be fine, he'll go to america early and adjust to the time. Atleast Ward isn't in Oakland and Ward isn't big enough yet that he gets a huge home court advantage in New York or Vegas.

If Froch is the better guy on the night then he'll win