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  • crold1
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    #51
    Originally posted by Freedom.
    I think the time zone change did effect Hatton and others.

    You obviously haven't travelled much, or you'd understand what I'm talking about.

    If you've slept from 11 PM until 6 AM all your life, then you travel to a time zone where it's 8 PM, but it's 4 AM where you've lived all your life, you're body will be feeling like you should be sleeping.

    That really isn't difficult to understand.
    Hatton was affected most by Mayweather being a MUCH better pro. Time zone? Silly.

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      #52
      Time zone, travelling and altitude can make a difference, which is why Alvarez was sure to have the Rhodes fight in Mexico because he needs every advantage possible.

      I don't think it will make a difference in the Ward-Froch fight though as it isn't going to take place at high altitude and Froch is an experienced traveller.

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      • Weebler I
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        #53
        Originally posted by JoeyZagz
        If the fight must happen in Americam then New York is the best choice. As far away from Oakland as possible.
        I agree. Additionally, if it's in NYC, I might attend.

        Originally posted by johnm
        Do I think it's fair that he's fought every fight in California? Of course not.

        But, damn man, it's every fight... every single fight....
        .....Ward fights in his backyard.

        Originally posted by Pinoy4ever
        The city of angels no doubt and business wised the smartest.
        lol

        Originally posted by DrewWoodside
        Yup, please bring this to MSG. That would be sick. Froch mentioned wanting to fight in Vegas, but I think he'd get his fairest US fight in NYC. It would be enough from Ward's hometown, that Froch's fans would actually greatly out number Ward's. Someone should advise Froch on this. With that said, we all know there is very little that can stop this fight from going straight to Vegas.
        Agree with the whole post.

        Originally posted by ИATAS206
        Quite complaining Ward >> Kessler and that is clear.
        Ward didn't even beat Kessler, the fight was stopped because Kessler couldn't see as a result of 5 illegal headbutts.

        Originally posted by crold1
        Hatton was affected most by Mayweather being a MUCH better pro. Time zone? Silly.
        Actually, he was affected most by the corrupt referee.

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        • crold1
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          #54
          Originally posted by The Weebler II
          I agree. Additionally, if it's in NYC, I might attend.



          .....Ward fights in his backyard.



          lol



          Agree with the whole post.



          Ward didn't even beat Kessler, the fight was stopped because Kessler couldn't see as a result of 5 illegal headbutts.



          Actually, he was affected most by the corrupt referee.
          Kessler was affected by an inability to infight. There are tactics to confront a guy leading with his head. He used none. Locale doesn't change that and Ward would not have been penalized much for what he was doing anywhere else either.

          Anyone who likes Kessler should be encouraged by what he showed off the layoff. His technique at close quarters has improved.
          Last edited by crold1; 06-16-2011, 05:05 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by crold1
            Kessler was affected by an inability to infight. There are tactics to confront a guy leading with his head. He used none. Locale doesn't change that and Ward would not have been penalized much for what he was doing anywhere else either.

            Anyone who likes Kessler should be encouraged by what he showed off the layoff. His technique at close quarters has improved.
            yes he would, you simply can't open holes in fighter's eyes with your head. That ref on fight night seemed more interested in getting in Kessler's face and ignoring any of Ward's transgressions.

            I have no problem with Ward's inside game, that's part of boxing and he's good at it, he's good on the outside too and I pick him to beat Froch, however I do have an issue with his headbutts. He did it late against Abraham too, it's just dirty and not a legit tactic and it devalues his wins.

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              #56
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              yes he would, you simply can't open holes in fighter's eyes with your head. That ref on fight night seemed more interested in getting in Kessler's face and ignoring any of Ward's transgressions.

              I have no problem with Ward's inside game, that's part of boxing and he's good at it, he's good on the outside too and I pick him to beat Froch, however I do have an issue with his headbutts. He did it late against Abraham too, it's just dirty and not a legit tactic and it devalues his wins.
              He's not rearing back and butting. He leads with his head forward. It's subtle and those who are good at it almost never get called. He didn't lose a round because Kessler fought him all wrong. No lateral movement, no uppercut like the one Montoya now seems to.be developing.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Freedom.
                The pampered Andre Ward will have ALL his Super Six fights in his home country.

                Carl Froch, even though he's a bigger draw in Nottingham than Ward is anywhere in the US, will have had 4 of his 5 fights in a foreign country.

                Is this fair?
                It is not fair on Froch.

                Ward must have had the better promoter.

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                • FloydTBE
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                  #58
                  get it on in vegas, great stage

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                  • Battle*Hardened
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                    #59
                    I always said it should be in MSG.

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                      #60
                      anyone b*tching about froch vs ward being in new york or vegas are clearly ret@rded or have some kind of crazed hidden agenda. i pick the later....

                      first of all. the judges won't be american.....the ref won't be american. outside of oakland no one even knows who ward is. both fighters will be STRANGERS therefore nether one will have a "home town atmosphere" america isn't like the u.k. NEW YORKERS hate californians. ward would have to have oakland judges, ref, / hometown atmosphere to actually have a ADVANTAGE. you can't just put ward in somewhere like boston and claim "ward has a home town advantage" ****ing morons WHAHAHAHA.

                      i find it funny that the same moron who's crying (tunney) PRAISES BUTE FOR HAVING *ACTUAL* HOME TOWN ADVANTAGES /ref/hometown/judges/negotiating bums.

                      ****ing agenda filled morons.....
                      Last edited by americanbot; 06-16-2011, 06:53 PM.

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