Martinez needs to fight Pirog.

[LeG00N]

If he beats Pirog decisively... he really won't get a shot at any big names any time soon

[Bushbaby]

He should have fought Geale, Pirgo, or Chavez Jr but since Chavez Jr balls haven't dropped yet and still has a vagina, and Geale also wants an easy title shot before Martinez takes his title by having this ****** ass #1 contenders tournament full of jokes. He should have fought Pirog.

But nooooooooo. He rather chase Cotto, Manny, and Floyd, the smaller fighters. It's like Hopkins vs Oscar except a little worse. And at least Trinidad proved he could fight at 160. Chavez & Martinez trying to blow these welterweights up. Cotto is a natural welterweight I feel he's slow as ***** at 154.

I know right??I mean it's not like Martinez would meet them at 154.U know where they've all been champ at.It's not like Floyd has ever cheated a smaller fighter on the scales ever.It's not like Pacman won't make 140 to fight a lightweight.It's not like he's doing the same thing Floyd did to Marquez,(bring him to welterweight).It's not like Cotto isn't the highest ranked super welterweight.But I do find it funny however that's it's mostly Floyd & Pacman fans that would prefer Cotto to fight Martinez than Floyd or Pacman.Especially since Floyd & Pacman are supposedly much greater than Cotto.I mean fighting bigger stiffs usually shouldn't be something to brag about,but in a sport of promoters,beating a shot cheater at a catchweight is legendary & record breaking,go figure.

[S H A R K B O Y]

Pirog has great potential, his style is a nightmare for any fighter but if you throw him in there too soon, it could be wasted talent. Let him fight JCC Jr. or Rubio to get some good names on his resume. He needs to be built up before he can fight the big boss.

[Bushbaby]

Pirog has great potential, his style is a nightmare for any fighter but if you throw him in there too soon, it could be wasted talent. Let him fight JCC Jr. or Rubio to get some good names on his resume. He needs to be built up before he can fight the big boss.

But that's too realistic.I know Pirog's pro carrer isn't ready to face Martinez,but according to some Martinez is ducking him.This fight will probably be easier than all of Martinez's last 3 fights,but so what.Keep beating everyone they say ur ducking,then there won't be anything left to say.Kinda like B-hop.U know,he only beats smaller fighters.So go even against JC,beat up on Tarver then,take the title from the #1 ranked Light heavyweight in the wold at 46 & there isn't much anyone can day bout ya after.

[Ko King 212]

You dudes say pirog has to earn the right to fight Williams but WTF has Martinez done to earn a shot at pacq or mayweather? Because he ko's Paul Williams. I mean shouldn't he look for a trilogy since he lost the first fight. I mean other then that who has Martinez beat to earn a shot at pacq or Floyd.

Also fighting Floyd or pacq isn't about him challenging himself it's about money. He should up to those 168lbs if he wants a challenge. But you know why he won't tho right?

[Bushbaby]

You dudes say pirog has to earn the right to fight Williams but WTF has Martinez done to earn a shot at pacq or mayweather? Because he ko's Paul Williams. I mean shouldn't he look for a trilogy since he lost the first fight. I mean other then that who has Martinez beat to earn a shot at pacq or Floyd.

Also fighting Floyd or pacq isn't about him challenging himself it's about money. He should up to those 168lbs if he wants a challenge. But you know why he won't tho right?

Please don't enter this tread with faulty logic again dude.Martinez has done more to earn a shot than any other fighter Floyd or Manny has fought above 140 except for when Floyd fought Mosley.Act like the Punisher is nobody now.He lost to Martinez who is arguably the best fighter in boxing.Before that loss,Floyd nor Manny wanted nothing to do with the Punisher at welterweight,don't develop amnesia when it suites u.

Was Pacman fighting Margarito,Mosley & now Marquez at welterweight challenging himself??Did any deserve to fight him??Also was Judah,after he lost to Baldomir,Sharmba,Marquez or even Baldomir himself Floyd challenging himself??Nope,none were,they were all about the Money.If u know that Martinez,Floyd & Pacman have all been super welterweight champions & that Floyd or Pacman gets handled there,just say so.Don't make up ****** excuses when the guys ur defending are worse than Martinez in the department U attack Martinez in,truck.

[The Hammer]

He needs to forget about Darren Barker.

Fighting Darren Barker is worse than anything Mayweather and Pacquiao's have done in many years.

Martinez ducking Pirog to fight someong like Barker is disgraceful.

[Ko King 212]

I'll ask again who has Martinez beat to earn a shot at pacq or Floyd?

I see you didn't answer my question about him going up to 168 did you?

Also Floyd and manny fought 1 time at 154. After they fought they move their azz back down to ww where they belong.

They both should be fighting each other. They aren't obligated to fight Sergio who is the current reigning MW champion.

Like I said he is looking to fight cotto pacq or Floyd for money. Not because he wants to challenge himself.

Paul Williams gets his azz beat by pacq or Floyd. I'm not saying he is a hype job but dude is very beatable. Hence Carlos Q. Boxing his azz.

[Ko King 212]

If he beats Pirog decisively... he really won't get a shot at any big names any time soon

What does that matter if he blows him out or not he should be fighting him or waiting for a rematch with Paul Williams.

[Bushbaby]

I'll ask again who has Martinez beat to earn a shot at pacq or Floyd?

I see you didn't answer my question about him going up to 168 did you?

Also Floyd and manny fought 1 time at 154. After they fought they move their azz back down to ww where they belong.

They both should be fighting each other. They aren't obligated to fight Sergio who is the current reigning MW champion.

Like I said he is looking to fight cotto pacq or Floyd for money. Not because he wants to challenge himself.

Paul Williams gets his azz beat by pacq or Floyd. I'm saying he is a hype job but dude is very beatable. Hence Carlos Q. Boxing his azz.

Martinez beat the Punisher,Pavlik,Cintron twice in 1 fight & Dzinziruk.That's who he beat.Now what is the difference between Martinez at 168 & Floyd & Manny at 154,well lets see.The obvious would obviously be that Martinez has never fought at 168,while Floyd & Manny were indeed 154lb champs.Facts by the way facts.But like I said None,absolutely no fights that Floyd or Manny had above 140 was them challenging themselves.So how can one sit there & type up some **** about Martinez challenging himself.It's not about challenging anyone's self otherwise Margarito Mosley & Marquez at 147 would never have happened for Pacman & everyone outside of Mosley wouldn't have happened at welterweight for Floyd.