Andre Ward is top 10 P4P... But not Bute or Froch?

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  • sicko
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    #21
    Originally posted by coreyg100
    I have to admit. Ward puts on a very slow fight. Now Lucian Bute and Mikkel Kessler are my favorite Super Middleweights. I know Kessler lost to Ward so that puts him top 17-20 in my eyes. But Lucian Bute? He has held his belt for Years fought well and entertaining fights and wins by KO a lot. Also, Carl Froch is a great fighter too. Equal To Ward in my eyes..

    Bute Vs. Ward?
    Froch Vs Ward?
    Kessler Vs. Johnson?


    ??? WTF does that have to do with being P4P, Bute is not P4P because HE DOESN'T FIGHT ANYBODY! Compared to Ward who has been BREEZING threw this Super 6 Tournament...none of Wards fights have been Close in this entire Tournament which is pretty impressive considering the fact that not many people picked him before this Tournament Started

    and of course if Froch beats Ward then of course he will likely replace him on that P4P List...Froch probably would be higher then Ward on the P4P list if Froch didn't LOSE to Kessler
    Last edited by sicko; 06-15-2011, 05:27 PM.

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    • Heeb
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      #22
      I agree Froch should be in there, and arguably ahead of Ward. Bute though? No way.

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        #23
        Bute hasn't beat anyone, while the other super middleweights are fighting each other. Ward is deserving of his spot. He beat Kessler rather easily, same Kessler that beat Froch. Froch should be in top 10 or close but Ward deserves his spot.

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        • TheSlickster
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          #24
          Ward easily defeated Kessler, destroyed Green, defeated Bika whom would've been competitive with any of the other Super Six, and defeat Abraham easily. Froch imo lost to Dirrell, officially lost to Kessler, destroyed Abraham and won against Johnson in a competitive fight. Based on who looked more dominant. Ward.

          Ward is the man at Super Middleweight right now. Bute hasn't done jack, plus i think he's very overrated. I feel Kessler, Froch, Dirrell and Ward could beat him w/o much difficulty.

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          • Paclan
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            #25
            bute hasn't fought anybody and ward's wins are easily better than froch's

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            • HitmanHattonAY
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              #26
              Bute should be nowhere near the top 10 p4p, he's more like 50th lol

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              • Wes_Claypool
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                #27
                Not that I thought he was a p4p fighter. Its just that conventional wisdom has the S6 winner facing him which I feel is rediculous. Its almost like hes getting a free pass to fight Ward or Froch without going through the guantlet that was the tourney. He was basiclly slotted in the 2 spot halfway through group stage 2, by beating Librado and Miranda.

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                • Mr.Easy
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                  #28
                  Ward will whoop Froch and Bute!!!

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                  • Ryn0
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                    #29
                    Bute hasn't fought a world class fighter IMO (although Andrade is close but on the fringes)

                    Bute has fought Miranda and Andrade and personally I don't believe he'd fought anyone else of Merit though they way he wins is impressive so I don't think he's P4P top 10 off resume (maybe off talent?)

                    Froch probably deserves to be in the top 10 and most likely would be if he hadn't lost to Kessler. Froch has beat Pascal, Dirrell, Taylor and Johnson and deserves a top 10 ranking IMO.

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                    • Dave Rado
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Wes_Claypool
                      Not that I thought he was a p4p fighter. Its just that conventional wisdom has the S6 winner facing him which I feel is rediculous. Its almost like hes getting a free pass to fight Ward or Froch without going through the guantlet that was the tourney. He was basiclly slotted in the 2 spot halfway through group stage 2, by beating Librado and Miranda.
                      That was because he was excluded from the competition despite the fact he was the concensus #2 at the time. That was not his fault, and in those circumstances, as long as he keeps winning, it is right that he should get first crack at the tournament winner. Bottom line, it was wrong of Showtime to exclude him from the tournament.

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