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  • jri9d0
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    #11
    Tito would have KO’ed Mosley, boxers with lateral movement, footwork, and a jab is what kept Tito honest (with the exception of Winky) and Mosley possessed neither.

    At some point Mosley would want to stand and trade with Tito and that is a BIG MISTAKE!

    Tito wins in championship rounds stoppage.

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    • DLT
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      #12
      Originally posted by Bushbaby
      Tito hit harder,but not much harder.I base that on all there common opponents.I believe Mosley did better against all.Oscar,Winky & Vargas.Except for Mayorga.
      Nah, its not close. It may be close in a P4P sense. Like Mosley at LW against a prime weight Tito but at WW Tito punches much harder. Tito was washed up by time he fought Winky and Vargas was washed up by time he fought Mosley. Oscar tried to come at Mosley but ran from Tito so none of those fights are good comparisons to eachother. Mosley aint wrecking guys like Joppy at 160, David Reid at 154, a prime Vargas at 154, and so on

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        #13
        Originally posted by Bushbaby
        Tito hit harder,but not much harder.I base that on all there common opponents.I believe Mosley did better against all.Oscar,Winky & Vargas.Except for Mayorga.
        The only fight that could really be a legitimate comparison for is the Oscar fight. Tito was way past his best when he fought Wright and Vargas was far past his prime after getting KO'd by Tito and Oscar.

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        • Bushbaby
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          #14
          Originally posted by DLT
          Nah, its not close. It may be close in a P4P sense. Like Mosley at LW against a prime weight Tito but at WW Tito punches much harder. Tito was washed up by time he fought Winky and Vargas was washed up by time he fought Mosley. Oscar tried to come at Mosley but ran from Tito so none of those fights are good comparisons to eachother. Mosley aint wrecking guys like Joppy at 160, David Reid at 154, a prime Vargas at 154, and so on
          Originally posted by Heebarican
          The only fight that could really be a legitimate comparison for is the Oscar fight. Tito was way past his best when he fought Wright and Vargas was far past his prime after getting KO'd by Tito and Oscar.
          All I know was Tito was bouncing shots uselessly off of Winky's gloves.Power shouldn't evaporate like that.Especially when it's the last thing to go.It's not like He wasn't hitting Winky,he was touching Winky's guard & had absolutely no effect.Against Roy Jones he was landing solid shots,that was after looking powerless against Winky.

          Oscar ran from Tito in 3 rounds.Before that Tito's power had no effect.**** even then it had no effect.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Steak
            I ont really think thats issue.

            Its the relative power that matters. I think Mosley has the ability to hurt Trinidad more than Trinidad has the ability to hurt Mosley.

            I cant help but look back to the Anthony Stephans fight. Trinidad get dropped hard with a right hand in that fight and had a tough night...

            but still, Trinidad almost always got off the deck early to win.

            difficult fight to think about. I might actually go for Trinidad by close decision.
            I wasn't talking relatively, just in general in which Tito certainly has the more mosterous power of the two.

            But in terms of the match up then that's a good point you touched on.

            I agree it's a difficult one because both fighters did well with each others styles. When I read the title, SD or MD sprung to me mind.

            I'm going to lean on Tito who I think would be the more agressive of the two.

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            • jri9d0
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              #16
              Originally posted by Bushbaby
              All I know was Tito was bouncing shots uselessly off of Winky's gloves.Power shouldn't evaporate like that.Especially when it's the last thing to go.It's not like He wasn't hitting Winky,he was touching Winky's guard & had absolutely no effect.Against Roy Jones he was landing solid shots,that was after looking powerless against Winky.

              Oscar ran from Tito in 3 rounds.Before that Tito's power had no effect.**** even then it had no effect.
              You are talking about a past prime Tito who was well out of the welter weight division. Tito’s prime and greatest achievements (minus Vargas at 154) was at 147 (welter).

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                #17
                Originally posted by Bushbaby
                All I know was Tito was bouncing shots uselessly off of Winky's gloves.Power shouldn't evaporate like that.Especially when it's the last thing to go.It's not like He wasn't hitting Winky,he was touching Winky's guard & had absolutely no effect.Against Roy Jones he was landing solid shots,that was after looking powerless against Winky.

                Oscar ran from Tito in 3 rounds.Before that Tito's power had no effect.**** even then it had no effect.
                actually, Im not totally sure that Tito's power was real. It wasnt the same after the Hopkins wraps thing but Ill give him the benefit. As far as Winky goes, he was a great defensive fighter & maybe P4P better then Mosley at his best.

                However, Tito was not nearly the same guy then, even with power. Infact, I thought that if Mayorga didnt act ****** & let Tito punch him then he "couldve" maybe beat Tito or given him hell in the fight before that

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bushbaby
                  All I know was Tito was bouncing shots uselessly off of Winky's gloves.Power shouldn't evaporate like that.Especially when it's the last thing to go.It's not like He wasn't hitting Winky,he was touching Winky's guard & had absolutely no effect.Against Roy Jones he was landing solid shots,that was after looking powerless against Winky.

                  Oscar ran from Tito in 3 rounds.Before that Tito's power had no effect.**** even then it had no effect.
                  That's 160 Lb in decline version of Tito.

                  Roy Jones? Come on now.

                  Oscar ran from Tito's power. He didn't from Shane's.

                  Tito is by far the harder puncher.
                  Last edited by IronDanHamza; 06-11-2011, 12:14 PM.

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                  • BeenDownB4
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Steak
                    I ont really think thats issue.

                    Its the relative power that matters. I think Mosley has the ability to hurt Trinidad more than Trinidad has the ability to hurt Mosley.

                    I cant help but look back to the Anthony Stephans fight. Trinidad get dropped hard with a right hand in that fight and had a tough night...

                    but still, Trinidad almost always got off the deck early to win.

                    difficult fight to think about. I might actually go for Trinidad by close decision.
                    Agree with this^^^^^^^^

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                      #20
                      Tito knocks him out.
                      Everybody always seem to think of Mosley as some master boxer in his prime. He wasn't.
                      Also Everybody always seem to think of Trinidad as some simple slugger, When in reality he liked it when his opponents came to him so he could land a huge counter bomb.
                      Carr, Vargas, Joppy and countless others made the mistake of standing in front of Trinidad.
                      Mosely in his prime was very arrogant and ACTUALLY believed like he was the new Sugar Ray Robinson. And that guarantees he trys to war with Trinidad and pays the price.
                      Lets not forget Trinidad is the bigger stronger man with much more power.
                      Last edited by lightsout_finit; 06-11-2011, 11:54 AM.

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