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  • #51
    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    Roach was not commenting on Manny vs Floyd future negotiations. It was either for the past negotiations or the Mosley fight itself.

    Meaning, if in the past or for the Mosley fight they don't care to be tested then it would be hypocritical of them to ask Mosley to do it.

    If it was a clear question such as the one directed at Manny about being tested for an upcoming Floyd fight then OK .... until then, try again!

    That video was quite clear by Manny saying I don't mind even between rounds.

    The question you should ask yourself is, if Floyd really wanted to fight Manny next, why did he come out of retirement only once the Marquez fight became official? huh?
    Mayweather called out Manny on fighthype before Pacquiao vs Marquez was signed. Manny rushed immediately to sign against Marquez once Mayweather showed his ring entrance outfit.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by TheTruth! View Post
      Mayweather called out Manny on fighthype before Pacquiao vs Marquez was signed. Manny rushed immediately to sign against Marquez once Mayweather showed his ring entrance outfit.
      All Floyd keeps on saying is take the test....

      Funny that he got his guys to talk to Ortiz but must have misplaced Manny's team's number, hey?

      Floyd also said recently that he wasn't quite ready to come back and therefore had no opponent in mind. Remember that? Floyd also tried to squash the Ortiz rumors as well.

      Nothing that came out of him made it sound that Team Manny should be prepared to get a call from Mayweather's side .... and as far as what has been said, Floyd never did!!!

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      • #53
        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Roach was not commenting on Manny vs Floyd future negotiations. It was either for the past negotiations or the Mosley fight itself.

        Meaning, if in the past or for the Mosley fight they don't care to be tested then it would be hypocritical of them to ask Mosley to do it.

        If it was a clear question such as the one directed at Manny about being tested for an upcoming Floyd fight then OK .... until then, try again!

        That video was quite clear by Manny saying I don't mind getting tested even between rounds .... this is to make it clear for everyone .... but there will always be the few that will still not be able to understand!

        The question you should ask yourself is, if Floyd really wanted to fight Manny next, why did he come out of retirement only once the Marquez fight became official? huh?
        he said we"never agreed to testing".nuff said

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        • #54
          Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
          he said we"never agreed to testing".nuff said
          Like I told you in my previous post, let me know if the direct question was "Will Manny agree to random testing with no cutoff's if Floyd is ready to come out of vacation and fight Manny?"

          Or was it about past negotiations or about Mosley fight?


          You know that Manny HAS said that he will agree to testing ..... there is a video that all should be able to understand .... IT'S CLEAR FOR ALL THE REST OF US THAT MANNY AGREED!!!

          So all that Floyd had to do was call Manny instead of Ortiz BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!

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          • #55
            Originally posted by solobaric View Post
            WTF!!! and what roid can't be detected in blood test 14days before the fight and right after the fight??? Is it Mannys special roid?
            Transdermal Testosterone(and other steroids less than 8 hrs)
            Testosterone Suspension
            Testosterone Propionate
            Testosterone Undecanoate
            EPO 12-18hrs

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            • #56
              Originally posted by KitangKatag View Post
              how about this then;

              why did floydie lied/denied that there was a negociation between both camps and Ross Greenburg shot him down for lying?
              From fighthype:

              Hey Ben, Just wanted to say much respect for the videos you dropped. Ima huge mayweather fan, and its great hearing his side of events since all u hear now a days is just the biased opinion of everyone on manny's jock. If u get the opportunity Id really like u to ask floyd this question. I know for a fact (even before u dropped the first video) that manny was the reason that the first proposed fight didn't materialize. Following that, there was the drama that ensued with Top rank n bob saying that HBO is mediating the deal and mayweather's camp said there were no negotiations. Later on, Ross Greenberg from HBO said there were infact negotiations going on. What was up with that? I think al haymon was the one that said 'arum has lied before and he got a history of doing so.' Why didn't mayweather's camp simply say the original terms of hte contract (7 or 14 day blood test) is no longer effective and from here on out he is only interested in testing all the way up to the day of the fight. Instead of making the statement that there were no negotiations. The only reason I mentioned this, is whenever this debate comes up people always jump to that incident with haymon. I think mayweather is perfectly within his right to say that the second negotiations were not a continuation and they are back to square one. Anyways, mayweather is my favorite boxer, i think he would expose pacquioa in the ring. And i hope he gets into the ring soon and continues to prove his greatness. Much respect for to u for dropping the videos. peace, mohamed s.

              BT: Thanks Mohamed. To answer your question, in February of 2010, Floyd Mayweather actually DID make it crystal clear that the offer of a 14-day cutoff was no longer on the table and that, going forward, his terms for any fighter are full random blood and urine testing leading all the way up until the fight. One month prior to Pacquiao's fight with Clottey and three months prior to Floyd's fight with Mosley, he would tell David Mayo of the Grand Rapid's Press, "I gave him a chance, up to 14 days out. But my new terms are all the way up to the fight. They can come get us whenever, all the way up to the fight, random drug test. That's what it is." I don't think he can make it any more clearer than that. Furthermore, I think that's the reason why they don't consider Ross Greenburg passing love notes between Al Haymon and Bob Arum as a form of "negotiations". As far as Floyd is concerned, if Manny isn't willing to take the full random blood and urine testing leading all the way up until the bout - meaning no cut-off dates whatsoever - then there was never anything to negotiate. Ross Greenburg and Bob Arum may call that negotiating, but as far as Floyd is concerned, they were simply conversations. Besides, exactly how much of a "negotiation" could it have been when the two sides aren't even having direct communication with each other?

              With that explaination, I think you can see why FMJ said "there were no negotiations".

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