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  • #41
    Instead of telling what Pacman should do, it would be much much better if they should go straight to the home state of Floyd jr., and verify all testing done to Pacman, by Nevada State Boxing Officials. If not satisfied, then, tell them to drug test Pacman! And let see, whether they are going to follow or NOT!

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    • #42
      To my understanding Manny agreed to the test with Floyd his only problem was the amount of test and that they both have an equal amount of test and not a situation where he would be tested twice as much as Floyd like Shane had to do. I think they should test up to two weeks before the fight and immediately following the fight.

      Floyd is not scared of Pacquaio he is afraid of losing because a loss would greatly cut the $ amount of guaranteed revenues in future bouts.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Discipline View Post
        Taking random drug testing in his fights with Mosley, Margarito and forthcoming one with Marquez.

        Why?

        Some feel that Floyd's drug testing demands are because he's scared. If that's the case, then wouldn't you say that in finding that Pacquaio is an all 'natural' fighter deter Mayweather Jr even more from fighting him. I think 100 % can agree on that.

        But.

        He didn't? He hasn't?

        Which means only one thing. Yep!
        Nothing Manny would have done in previous fights would have meant a damn thing. Floyd would still ask for him to be tested.

        So, Manny will go through the test in the Floyd fight. That is the best way to debunk anything Floyd has to say. It doesn't matter about any other fight.

        The thing that is starting to bother me though, I'm starting to get the feeling that if Manny does do through with the testing (for the fight with Floyd), it will not be enough for some fans...Really won't be enough if he comes back clean! Cause many have already made up their minds that he is a cheat. They will just start to find quotes about being able to cheat the system, and how cheaters are always ahead of any system...
        Last edited by HandSpeed303; 06-11-2011, 10:48 AM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by pacfan View Post
          floyd's fans and his handlers are obvioulsy not doing the right thing when it comes to the may/pac issue.
          Originally posted by pacfan View Post
          they won't do that because floyd is surrounded by yes people and lawyers who adivise not to settle because that would jeopardize their business of defending floyd which amounts to millions in fees.

          look at gbp. they settled their case with a simple apology. team pac accepted. did that lessen gbp's stature? no. it certainly gotten rid of the headaches figthing a losing court battle.
          Originally posted by HandSpeed303 View Post
          Nothing Manny would have done in previous fights would have meant a damn thing. Floyd would still ask for him to be tested.

          So, Manny will go through the test in the Floyd fight. That is the best way to debunk anything Floyd has to say. It doesn't matter about any other fight.

          The thing that is starting to bother me though, I'm starting to get the feeling that if Manny does do through with the testing (for the fight with Floyd), it will not be enough for some fans...Really won't be enough if he comes back clean! Cause many have already made up their minds that he is a cheat. They will just start to find quotes about being able to cheat the system, and how cheaters are always ahead of any system...
          Once the lawsuit is over you'll get your answer, one party will be found guilty

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Discipline View Post
            People are blind, or either really hate Mayweather - I'm going with the latter.
            I truly believe that deep down inside all pac stans... even they think Pacquiao is juicing, and the boxing fans that aren't fans of Mayweather, think the same. I'd rather they all just came forward and said, "yeah, so if Pacquiao's juicing, Mayweather should fight him anyway."

            I'd respect that more than all of them just trying to sweep the real issue at hand under the rug and then following suit by reiterating what confirmed liars and bribery cases say on camera or to a journalist.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by KitangKatag View Post
              Once the lawsuit is over you'll get your answer, one party will be found guilty
              It actually should be interesting if it doesn't get dropped altogether just because Mayweather will have to prove if the statements he made are true... and that opens up doors for numerous other parties to get involved, which starts smelling like an investigation. And just like all of the Mayweather's comments will be evaluated [which is why GBP settled], everybody associated with Pacquiao will be investigated.

              Sure, it may cost a bit, but there will be a lot more done in order to get to the bottom of the issue which could backfire on Pacquiao or get him a check, we don't know.

              Let's say the case doesn't get dropped and it's carried out... the ruling is in favor of Pacquiao. Still doesn't change the fact that he's refused random drug testing 'til this day.
              Last edited by deejd; 06-11-2011, 11:06 AM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by davis828 View Post
                I truly believe that deep down inside all pac stans... even they think Pacquiao is juicing, and the boxing fans that aren't fans of Mayweather, think the same. I'd rather they all just came forward and said, "yeah, so if Pacquiao's juicing, Mayweather should fight him anyway."

                I'd respect that more than all of them just trying to sweep the real issue at hand under the rug and then following suit by reiterating what confirmed liars and bribery cases say on camera or to a journalist.
                So when did you start to think he was on something? Please don't say around the time of the Hatton fight. Cause if you do, we all know where that came from.

                Listen, just cause you believe that Manny is on something, doesn't mean he is, or that everyone else has to think he is. Just as B-Hop said, "I don't know what he does, so I didn't jump on his case about it"...The facts are we don't know.

                Another fact is, a test may, or may not prove anything.

                Look, I get it. I know why people have the thought they have about Pac. All due to what happened the first go around. Hell, I thought it was shady too! May stance has never changed on that.

                Now if you go fan to fan and ask, "hey you think Manny is on something?". Pac fan or not, you might just be surprised at the answers you get. Don't go by the fanatic's on this site.

                My Opinion: I do think he is on something...Hell, I think every high profile athlete is. Including Floyd. Now does that mean anything he is taking is a banned substance? Only time will tell, but there are plenty things you can put into your body that aren't banned.

                Simply put, I just have to wait and see if he is guilty.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by davis828 View Post
                  It actually should be interesting if it doesn't get dropped altogether just because Mayweather will have to prove if the statements he made are true... and that opens up doors for numerous other parties to get involved, which starts smelling like an investigation. And just like all of the Mayweather's comments will be evaluated [which is why GBP settled], everybody associated with Pacquiao will be investigated.

                  Sure, it may cost a bit, but there will be a lot more done in order to get to the bottom of the issue which could backfire on Pacquiao or get him a check, we don't know.

                  Let's say the case doesn't get dropped and it's carried out... the ruling is in favor of Pacquiao. Still doesn't change the fact that he's refused random drug testing 'til this day.
                  How can you get it done, when floyd is nowhere to be found? the FACT is that everyone wants to fight PAC without going through this test accept Floydie!

                  Did Margarito, Cotto, Marquez, Clottey, Hatton and Mosley got brain damaged after fighting Pac? NO! so why is floyd demanding the test if hes not afraid?
                  Last edited by KitangKatag; 06-11-2011, 11:17 AM.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by HandSpeed303 View Post
                    So when did you start to think he was on something? Please don't say around the time of the Hatton fight. Cause if you do, we all know where that came from.

                    Listen, just cause you believe that Manny is on something, doesn't mean he is, or that everyone else has to think he is. Just as B-Hop said, "I don't know what he does, so I didn't jump on his case about it"...The facts are we don't know.

                    Another fact is, a test may, or may not prove anything.

                    Look, I get it. I know why people have the thought they have about Pac. All due to what happened the first go around. Hell, I thought it was shady too! May stance has never changed on that.

                    Now if you go fan to fan and ask, "hey you think Manny is on something?". Pac fan or not, you might just be surprised at the answers you get. Don't go by the fanatic's on this site.

                    My Opinion: I do think he is on something...Hell, I think every high profile athlete is. Including Floyd. Now does that mean anything he is taking is a banned substance? Only time will tell, but there are plenty things you can put into your body that aren't banned.

                    Simply put, I just have to wait and see if he is guilty.
                    I never thought he was on something... to a degree, I still don't think he's on something. But it would be naive of me to think he's squeaky clean after his response to random drug testing in an era of sports where the greatest in most have been linked to PEDs.

                    I couldn't care less about the test results... I care more about whether the athlete even takes them or not. You think Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, Alex Ovechkin, Lance Armstrong, any high profile athlete, would get away with rejecting random drug testing? Could you imagine if it was Mayweather who was endorsing the refusal to test, the negative response he'd receive would be insurmountable.

                    And even in your opinion, you claim that Mayweather is "on something." Well, at least he tested. The guy must be smarter than we all believe, yeah?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by KitangKatag View Post
                      Did Margarito, Cotto, Marquez, Clottey, Hatton and Mosley got brain damaged after fighting Pac? NO! so why is floyd demanding the test if hes not afraid?
                      This is exactly what I'm talking about, handspeed. You see you're buddy...

                      Translation: "who cares if he's on 'roids, fight him anyway..."

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