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  • rogdogx
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    #41
    Originally posted by NachoMan
    I think Ortiz is going to surprise a lot of people (again). I put him as a very live underdog against Mayweather and I would pick him to beat (possibly KO) Pacquiao if they fought.
    You know Ortiz has surprised me a couple times. He surprised me when he easily beat Nate Campbell and by winning against Berto. Now again he is underestimated and will definitely be a live dog early. Ortiz would stylistically give Pac a very hard fight so i agree with a lot of what you say. If Mayweather can stay out of the early danger I think he gets the UD. Well got off topic. David Haye I hope he beats Klit because the Klits r very boring and unwatchable.

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    • Rick Grimes
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      #42
      Originally posted by rogdogx
      You know Ortiz has surprised me a couple times. He surprised me when he easily beat Nate Campbell and by winning against Berto. Now again he is underestimated and will definitely be a live dog early. Ortiz would stylistically give Pac a very hard fight so i agree with a lot of what you say. If Mayweather can stay out of the early danger I think he gets the UD. Well got off topic. David Haye I hope he beats Klit because the Klits r very boring and unwatchable.
      The Ortiz that fought Berto would give anyone problems, the pressure, power, speed and output was great.

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      • Hitman932
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        #43
        Steward just wants to further light a fire under Wlad's ass by overestimating Haye in the media.

        He's hoping for a career defining performance, and making the public believe that Haye is a legit threat will make the result look all the better.

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          #44
          Originally posted by kayjay
          Haye is NOT the best opponent Wlad has faced, not even in the top five. What Steward says here is that even in a weak division Haye had to fake and talk his way to a shot.
          No, what Steward said is that "He is an exciting fighter and is definitely the most dangerous that Wladimir will have faced."

          And Steward is right.
          Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 06-11-2011, 02:29 PM.

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          • LeadUppercut
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            #45
            Originally posted by Money Shot
            Haye's record isn't that impressive if you look at it. 90% of the guys he's fought were cans.
            We know that.

            It was just surprising to hear Manny Steward say exactly the same thing, and then admit that Haye will be Wlad's toughest opponent to date.

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            • hweightblogger
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              #46
              Originally posted by Mr. Roach
              Steward must think that Wlad has no resume at all.
              You got it the other way around: Haye is the one who has no heavyweight resume thus he isn't a quality heavyweight. Nevertheless he might very well be one of the most dangerous opponents.

              Originally posted by Rick Grimes
              So Haye is CW and has beat nobody but he's still the best fighter Wlad has fought. Poor Wlad not even his trainer rates him highly.
              Don't invent things. He said nothing of the sort.

              Instead Manny said:


              When asked about Klitschko and Lewis, Steward told reporter Alexander Pavlov the differences and similar traits between the two. Steward brought both of them to the heavyweight title.

              Manny Stewart: "The movement of Wladimir better balanced. He clearly works more with his legs. I worked with five world champions in the heavyweight division, including Evander Holyfield. And I will say that Wladimir 's body of work and his coordination is better than all the rest of my students"

              and

              "I think that Klitschko could have been a force among the fighters of the past decade and would be a big problem for them due to his size, motor coordination and excellent work. And then you factor is his jab."
              Last edited by hweightblogger; 06-11-2011, 05:58 PM.

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              • Ravens Fan
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                #47
                Jeez guys if Manny really thinks that Haye is a bum do you think he would come out and say it? No he would not because the fight will go along way to cement Wlad's legacy if he wins. Also, you guys are putting words in Manny's mouth because he never claimed Haye was the best or even the toughest opponent that Wlad has ever fought. What he said was he is the most dangerous. And might think that he is only dangerous for the first two rounds for all we know or just for the fact that he wings his power punches and leads with a left hook.

                As for where Wlad stands in history. Unless I have missed something the heavyweight division has been filled with a lot of so so fighters since the time Ali retired. Because in reality Holmes fought a lot of stiffs as Lewis also did and even Tyson himself fought plenty of stiffs. So, in reality the heavyweight division was full of plenty of stiffs and tomato cans long before the Klit bros showed up. And I will have to admit that I almost fell on the floor laughing when Manny referred to Mercer and Briggs as if they were great fighters. I was rather surprised that he didn't also mention the great Tommy Morrison. What was he thinking?

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                • sweetpea87
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                  #48
                  That is a given, but even with that being said Haye still won't win this fight.

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                  • hweightblogger
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Ravens Fan
                    As for where Wlad stands in history. Unless I have missed something the heavyweight division has been filled with a lot of so so fighters since the time Ali retired.
                    Yes, you have missed something: Before Holmes there was no heavyweight division, only a cruiserweight division.

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                    • texasboi15
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                      #50
                      steward should shut up. lennox was overrated.

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