Pacquiao Has No Fights That Can Guage

[comanick]

There are videos out there that say Pacquiao is agreeing to take the tests. Yes that was Pacquiao talking. Not a manipulated image of the man. If that can't be a basis for another negotiation I don't know what else will. You can say he is lying all you want, but what exactly do you gain from that? Tell me.

But I'm not going to add more to these recycled debates. I'm not going to lose sleep over Pac/May not happening. Like I said, Floyd is seen as the one holding up this fight. Not Pacquiao. You don't have to take my word for it. Ask any random person in the street if you want. You can blame Pac all you want if that makes you happy.

I get what you are saying but you like many other people seem to think that the 1st nego wouldnt have any barring on the second. As if now that pac is ready floyd should forget about the first nego and give pac whatever he wants. i want to see the fight too but business doesnt really work like that and i think you know that. You cant walk away from a fair deal, then have your promoter lie to the media to cover up that fact, sue the guy and then get mad cause he is making things difficult because now you are ready to fight.

I honestly think floyd is making things difficult because of that and he will wait arum out until he gets everything he wants.

You cant blame 1 without blaming the other. Did floyd make things difficult the 2nd time? Yes. But what did you expect after the first nego. You know the kind of ego he has and when a guy like him actually tries to do business in a fair manner and you try to crap on him, dont ever expect it again.

[ajohnz]

I think this will be a hell of a fight. I think I'd pick floyd probably 7 rounds to 5.

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Honestly, there's really no way to gauge Mayweather ability to fight someone like Pacquiao because he's never has. they're both beasts in their own right and we won't know how this fight plays out until the bell rings.

[ajohnz]

You're too biased n*gga. Look at **** from both sides of the fence. Both teams are in fault for this god damn fight not happening. It's ****** to put the blame all on one guy or one promoter if you haven't been there in the negotiations. You're gonna be biased towards Floyd, so you're going to believe anything that n*gga says, the same goes for Pacquiao when Arum says some wild ****. Makes you no better than the next n*gga who's just trying to ride the tails of their favorite athlete.

boom. nail on the head. if you don't recognize that both sides are at fault, you're blinded by your love

[megadeth]

There are videos out there that say Pacquiao is agreeing to take the tests. Yes that was Pacquiao talking. Not a manipulated image of the man. If that can't be a basis for another negotiation I don't know what else will. You can say he is lying all you want, but what exactly do you gain from that? Tell me.

Yes, on video to a no name reporter in a video that only shows up on Youtube. When he was asked, in front of God and the world at the Mosley presser he didn't have the same answer. It was "you have to believe me". So why is that if he was serious about what he said orginally. Is it so hard to repeat it? Why do u give Pac a complete pass for that?

But I'm not going to add more to these recycled debates. I'm not going to lose sleep over Pac/May not happening. Like I said, Floyd is seen as the one holding up this fight. Not Pacquiao. You don't have to take my word for it. Ask any random person in the street if you want. You can blame Pac all you want if that makes you happy.

Of course you don't want to add more to it, because you don't want to admit truth if it goes against Pac's side. Can't you at least admit that Pac and team were the cause of the first negations falling apart? Geez, is he Jesus to you guys or something? If it is anti Mayweather, you are quick to say something negative right? Have you EVER said anything like "Pac is holding up the fight" or called Pac out for "ducking" after the first negotiations. No, you are calling them "mistakes".

Dude, come on. So are u more worried about what the masses will go along with or do u standup for the truth. That is a weak argument about who is seen as holding up the fight. Who cares! The TRUTH is they BOTH have fault in the fight not happening yet.

[ThePrince]

neither guy has fought anyone like the other. They've fought guys with some of the same elements- zab being a southpaw with speed and some pop, ledwaba and sasakul being 'slick' boxers with speed, good footwork/movement and jmm's counterpunching abilities. And despite being labeled as a come forward brawler by clueless idiots, clottey is one of the best defensive counter punchers in the game and has good handspeed.

[maguirre]

Dude, come on. So are u more worried about what the masses will go along with or do u standup for the truth. That is a weak argument about who is seen as holding up the fight. Who cares! The TRUTH is they BOTH have fault in the fight not happening yet.

What?! Unbelievable that you can't see yourself in the mirror. That quote of yours actually applies to you. What about you, do you believe Pac is using peds? Why do you believe so? For discussion purposes, do you believe 7-14 days are not enough? If not, why not? Don't tell me it's Floyd belief that Pac is using peds. I'm asking you. What do YOU think? Not what Floyd think.

Dude, you don't have to take me seriously. These things don't require hard thinking. If a boxer demands something he never demanded in his 40 fights and can't accept something that is already far and above the current rules, then I don't even have to express an opinion. The world's reaction is automatic: must be scared of Pacquiao, how can peds do all the work, how can some famous person use such thing illegal without getting caught, how can 7 days not enough for a cut off, things like these would go over in any normal person's mind.

[Code Red]

What?! Unbelievable that you can't see yourself in the mirror. That quote of yours actually applies to you. What about you, do you believe Pac is using peds? Why do you believe so? For discussion purposes, do you believe 7-14 days are not enough? If not, why not? Don't tell me it's Floyd belief that Pac is using peds. I'm asking you. What do YOU think? Not what Floyd think.

Dude, you don't have to take me seriously. These things don't require hard thinking. If a boxer demands something he never demanded in his 40 fights and can't accept something that is already far and above the current rules, then I don't even have to express an opinion. The world's reaction is automatic: must be scared of Pacquiao, how can peds do all the work, how can some famous person use such thing illegal without getting caught, how can 7 days not enough for a cut off, things like these would go over in any normal person's mind.

Didnt the Balco scandal prove that as the drugs change, testing to will change, are u that mad that Floyd welcomes better testing and Pacquiao doesn't? Doesn't that in fact make Pac look su****ious?

[megadeth]

What?! Unbelievable that you can't see yourself in the mirror. That quote of yours actually applies to you. What about you, do you believe Pac is using peds? Why do you believe so? For discussion purposes, do you believe 7-14 days are not enough? If not, why not? Don't tell me it's Floyd belief that Pac is using peds. I'm asking you. What do YOU think? Not what Floyd think.

Please explain what you mean by your first line. What did I say that wasn't true? If I said something that wasn't true, I want to be corrected, because I DON'T want to be a sheep to the masses. Also, why when asked to give a straight answer, that would possibly be a against Pac, do u choose not to answer, or make an excuse for it (an error??). Here is my answer to what you asked. I don't necessarily believe that Pac is on PED's. I don't know either way. I will say there are some good reasons for reasonable people to be a little su****ious. For that matter, I don't know if FMJ is on them either. YES, I do think 7 to 14 days is should be enough(and have no problem siding with something that does not correspond with FMJ opinion). That is my opinion, but I am not getting in the ring with Pac, he is.

If you are talking about the acceptance of 7-14 days, I also have to look at the fact that FMJ went into the 1st negotiations in good faith and Pac/Arum lied and made it seem like he was the one making things difficult. The truth is, they were the cause of this whole things getting out of hand. If they accepted or maybe went about it in a different way, the fight probably would've happened already. To me, if Pac asked for the 10 mil per lb request which is above and beyond the commision and FMJ asked for OST which is above and beyond, then no one should say **** trying to make it seem like FMJ is being unreasonable. They both cancel each other out. They did the same, yet FMJ accepted Pac's demands.

Dude, you don't have to take me seriously. These things don't require hard thinking. If a boxer demands something he never demanded in his 40 fights and can't accept something that is already far and above the current rules, then I don't even have to express an opinion. The world's reaction is automatic: must be scared of Pacquiao, how can peds do all the work, how can some famous person use such thing illegal without getting caught, how can 7 days not enough for a cut off, things like these would go over in any normal person's mind.

So why aren't you saying that about Pac's 10mil per lb? Why make an excuse for it(FMJ came in over against JMM..SO has PAC)? Pac never asked for that in another fight and its never been done in the history of boxing. IT GOES BOTH WAYS! So by your thinking, Pac is afraid of FMJ right? By your thinking, the world's "automatic reaction" should've been that Pac was scared of FMJ right? All you have to do is turn it around and your argument loses its steam, cuz it applies to both of them. FLOYD DID ACCEPT. PAC was the one that didn't, they made it seems like FMJ was to blame(which was a lie), then he waited until FMJ said the offer was off the table to come out and said "ok, I will accept 14 days". What does THAT says to you?? How can a famous person do them without getting caught? Ask Barry Bonds, Marion Jones, Shane Mosley, Mark Mcguire, Sammy Sosa, Lance Armstrong. Shall I go on?

7 days should be in my eyes and in a lot of people eyes, but Pac's teams story has chanced so many times, who knows what the real answer is. Not to mention FMJ feels he gave conscessions originally, they didn't and tried to make him look like the coward. The truth is, that people feel this way because of the way the media and arum has spun things. They have sided with Pac and everyone knows that. At the very beginning people were saying "why wouldn't he take a drug test for 40 million?" "Why so many stories why they don't want to take the test?" "If he is afraid of needles, why all the tattoos?" Those were the original questions coming out. Then, Arum lying and the media started spinning things, and that is how sheeples opinion has turned against FMJ. If an athlete in any other sport was told they would get 40 million to take 6 weeks of random drug tests and they said no, people would be thinking "somethings going on" The media loves Pac's "feel good story", nice guy image and aggressive fighting style in the ring and so they have treated him with kid gloves and sided with him. Have u EVER seen Brian Kenny or Harold Letterman go after Pac like they have FMJ? Not even close. So, people aren't that concerned with

Now, I answered your questions. Please answer mine. Who do you think was at fault for the 1st negotiations not working out? Who do u say walked away. If you agree with me that it was Pac, then, shouldn't he be held to the same standard as floyd is by so many Pac fans for the "2nd negotiations"? "duck, coward, doesn't want to fight Mayweather.. etc."??

[Code Red]

Please explain what you mean by your first line. What did I say that wasn't true? If I said something that wasn't true, I want to be corrected, because I DON'T want to be a sheep to the masses. Also, why when asked to give a straight answer, that would possibly be a against Pac, do u choose not to answer, or make an excuse for it (an error??). Here is my answer to what you asked. I don't necessarily believe that Pac is on PED's. I don't know either way. I will say there are some good reasons for reasonable people to be a little su****ious. For that matter, I don't know if FMJ is on them either. YES, I do think 7 to 14 days is should be enough(and have no problem siding with something that does not correspond with FMJ opinion). That is my opinion, but I am not getting in the ring with Pac, he is.

If you are talking about the acceptance of 7-14 days, I also have to look at the fact that FMJ went into the 1st negotiations in good faith and Pac/Arum lied and made it seem like he was the one making things difficult. The truth is, they were the cause of this whole things getting out of hand. If they accepted or maybe went about it in a different way, the fight probably would've happened already. To me, if Pac asked for the 10 mil per lb request which is above and beyond the commision and FMJ asked for OST which is above and beyond, then no one should say **** trying to make it seem like FMJ is being unreasonable. They both cancel each other out. They did the same, yet FMJ accepted Pac's demands.




So why aren't you saying that about Pac's 10mil per lb? Why make an excuse for it(FMJ came in over against JMM..SO has PAC)? Pac never asked for that in another fight and its never been done in the history of boxing. IT GOES BOTH WAYS! So by your thinking, Pac is afraid of FMJ right? By your thinking, the world's "automatic reaction" should've been that Pac was scared of FMJ right? All you have to do is turn it around and your argument loses its steam, cuz it applies to both of them. FLOYD DID ACCEPT. PAC was the one that didn't, they made it seems like FMJ was to blame(which was a lie), then he waited until FMJ said the offer was off the table to come out and said "ok, I will accept 14 days". What does THAT says to you?? How can a famous person do them without getting caught? Ask Barry Bonds, Marion Jones, Shane Mosley, Mark Mcguire, Sammy Sosa, Lance Armstrong. Shall I go on?

7 days should be in my eyes and in a lot of people eyes, but Pac's teams story has chanced so many times, who knows what the real answer is. Not to mention FMJ feels he gave conscessions originally, they didn't and tried to make him look like the coward. The truth is, that people feel this way because of the way the media and arum has spun things. They have sided with Pac and everyone knows that. At the very beginning people were saying "why wouldn't he take a drug test for 40 million?" "Why so many stories why they don't want to take the test?" "If he is afraid of needles, why all the tattoos?" Those were the original questions coming out. Then, Arum lying and the media started spinning things, and that is how sheeples opinion has turned against FMJ. If an athlete in any other sport was told they would get 40 million to take 6 weeks of random drug tests and they said no, people would be thinking "somethings going on" The media loves Pac's "feel good story", nice guy image and aggressive fighting style in the ring and so they have treated him with kid gloves and sided with him. Have u EVER seen Brian Kenny or Harold Letterman go after Pac like they have FMJ? Not even close. So, people aren't that concerned with

Now, I answered your questions. Please answer mine. Who do you think was at fault for the 1st negotiations not working out? Who do u say walked away. If you agree with me that it was Pac, then, shouldn't he be held to the same standard as floyd is by so many Pac fans for the "2nd negotiations"? "duck, coward, doesn't want to fight Mayweather.. etc."??

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