Pacquiao Has No Fights That Can Guage

[maguirre]

WHy is the ball in floyd's court. He compromised in January 2010 and went with 14 day cutoff. Manny said no fight. Even if you hate floyd is that not a fair compromise, especially when he agreed to all Manny's requests?

Dude, negotiations don't end in one round. They can happen as many times as the negotiators want them to. Mistakes happen. Which is why the second round of negotiations took place -- to tweak some kinks in the first round.

[Code Red]

You're too biased n*gga. Look at **** from both sides of the fence. Both teams are in fault for this god damn fight not happening. It's ****** to put the blame all on one guy or one promoter if you haven't been there in the negotiations. You're gonna be biased towards Floyd, so you're going to believe anything that n*gga says, the same goes for Pacquiao when Arum says some wild ****. Makes you no better than the next n*gga who's just trying to ride the tails of their favorite athlete.

Full OST and the fight happens, that is nothing but a fact, the truth as evidenced with Mosley and now Ortiz. Take the test is all ***** Azz Pacquiao got to do.

[The Big Dunn]

Dude, negotiations don't end in one round. They can happen as many times as the negotiators want them to. Mistakes happen. Which is why the second round of negotiations took place -- to tweak some kinks in the first round.

But you know that isnt what happened here. Floyd compromised and Manny wouldn't. So floyd decided not to compromise further. Respectfully, I ask again is that not a fair compromise, especially when he agreed to all Manny's requests?

[maguirre]

But you know that isnt what happened here. Floyd compromised and Manny wouldn't. So floyd decided not to compromise further. Respectfully, I ask again is that not a fair compromise, especially when he agreed to all Manny's requests?

I don't know which one you are referring to, the first one or the second. The second negotiation was inititated by Arum. It's a tacit admission that there were indeed mistakes in the first one. I don't know why you guys keep bringing up the first one when the world hasn't ended yet. Are you just interested in endless arguments or actually want to see the fight happening?

Make no mistake man. The world out there sees Floyd as the one holding up this fight. Pac had agreed to take the test. If Pac is lying, only Floyd could prove it by actually doing something about it.

[Ron_Simmons]

Full OST and the fight happens, that is nothing but a fact, the truth as evidenced with Mosley and now Ortiz. Take the test is all ***** Azz Pacquiao got to do.

If Pacquiao and his team are saying they accepted the drug tests in public and Floyd still doesn't want the fight, you being a Mayweather fan first, you're going to believe Floyd when he says "...that ain't true", right? But from a Pacquiao fan's perspective, they're going to tell you "Floyd is ducking Manny!". You're gonna be biased first because you got loyalty towards Floyd, so what makes what you say the truth and not Pacquiao fans? Again, unless you're in the negotiations and you yourself know exactly what's been presented to both Floyd and Manny, you're assuming just like everyone else on both ends of the spectrum. Another question you can ask yourself is why are people willingly taking fights with Pacquiao for w/out testing if he's this "known" cheater? You don't think it's the same reason this kid Ortiz will take OST, AIDS, Chemo therapy, etc tests to fight Mayweather?

[Code Red]

If Pacquiao and his team are saying they accepted the drug tests in public and Floyd still doesn't want the fight, you being a Mayweather fan first, you're going to believe Floyd when he says "...that ain't true", right? But from a Pacquiao fan's perspective, they're going to tell you "Floyd is ducking Manny!". You're gonna be biased first because you got loyalty towards Floyd, so what makes what you say the truth and not Pacquiao fans? Again, unless you're in the negotiations and you yourself know exactly what's been presented to both Floyd and Manny, you're assuming just like everyone else on both ends of the spectrum. Another question you can ask yourself is why are people willingly taking fights with Pacquiao for w/out testing if he's this "known" cheater? You don't think it's the same reason this kid Ortiz will take OST, AIDS, Chemo therapy, etc tests to fight Mayweather?

I sure do believe Team Mayweather over Team lying azz Arum and Pacquiao. Mayweather has been consistent and so has his associates, Arum, Roach, Pac, these motherfuvkers have been caught lying throughout the entire process. So again I answer YES I believe Floyd over Team lying azz Arum and Pacquiao.

[Ron_Simmons]

I sure do believe Team Mayweather over Team lying azz Arum and Pacquiao. Mayweather has been consistent and so has his associates, Arum, Roach, Pac, these motherfuvkers have been caught lying throughout the entire process. So again I answer YES I believe Floyd over Team lying azz Arum and Pacquiao.

At least you're admitting your bias, that's sometimes all that needs to be said. And I'd balk at calling Mayweather and his team "consistent", unless Floyd's employer Ross Greenberg is a complete liar.

[The Big Dunn]

I don't know which one you are referring to, the first one or the second. The second negotiation was inititated by Arum. It's a tacit admission that there were indeed mistakes in the first one. I don't know why you guys keep bringing up the first one when the world hasn't ended yet. Are you just interested in endless arguments or actually want to see the fight happening?

Make no mistake man. The world out there sees Floyd as the one holding up this fight. Pac had agreed to take the test. If Pac is lying, only Floyd could prove it by actually doing something about it.

Its not about whether I want to see the fight happen or not. I do. For Manny to agree to 14 days, after floyd said 0 days or no fight on national tv (after Mosley fight, rsponding to a question from Larry Merchant) is bogus and I think reasonable people, pac fans or not, can admit this.

And Bob going back wasn't about correcting mistakes. I mean really, "no tests I'm afraid of needles" is a mistake? Cmon man you can't really believe that.

People believe lies all the time. I mean 12% of US citizens believe Pres ***** wasn't born in the US even after he released his full birth certificate.

You won't answer if floyd's compromise was fair or not. He tried to make the fight happen and Manny refused. Yet you wont hold manny accountable for his actions. Like Pac or not he is just as responsible for this fight not happening.

[maguirre]

Its not about whether I want to see the fight happen or not. I do. For Manny to agree to 14 days, after floyd said 0 days or no fight on national tv (after Mosley fight, rsponding to a question from Larry Merchant) is bogus and I think reasonable people, pac fans or not, can admit this.

And Bob going back wasn't about correcting mistakes. I mean really, "no tests I'm afraid of needles" is a mistake? Cmon man you can't really believe that.

People believe lies all the time. I mean 12% of US citizens believe Pres ***** wasn't born in the US even after he released his full birth certificate.

You won't answer if floyd's compromise was fair or not. He tried to make the fight happen and Manny refused. Yet you wont hold manny accountable for his actions. Like Pac or not he is just as responsible for this fight not happening.

There are videos out there that say Pacquiao is agreeing to take the tests. Yes that was Pacquiao talking. Not a manipulated image of the man. If that can't be a basis for another negotiation I don't know what else will. You can say he is lying all you want, but what exactly do you gain from that? Tell me.

But I'm not going to add more to these recycled debates. I'm not going to lose sleep over Pac/May not happening. Like I said, Floyd is seen as the one holding up this fight. Not Pacquiao. You don't have to take my word for it. Ask any random person in the street if you want. You can blame Pac all you want if that makes you happy.

[The Big Dunn]

There are videos out there that say Pacquiao is agreeing to take the tests. Yes that was Pacquiao talking. Not a manipulated image of the man. If that can't be a basis for another negotiation I don't know what else will. You can say he is lying all you want, but what exactly do you gain from that? Tell me.

But I'm not going to add more to these recycled debates. I'm not going to lose sleep over Pac/May not happening. Like I said, Floyd is seen as the one holding up this fight. Not Pacquiao. You don't have to take my word for it. Ask any random person in the street if you want. You can blame Pac all you want if that makes you happy.

I never said he lied. I simply said agreeing to an offer not on the table is bogus. Valuev tried to pull that with Klitchko and he got called on it. I know Manny is popular but that doesn't make it ok.

I said they are equally responsible so maybe you misread my post. All that and you still couldn't answer if floyd's compromise was fair.