Comments Thread For: Schaefer on Mayweather-Pacquiao Debate, Ortiz, More

[junior gong]

in Floyd's last 4 fights he took on the top fighter and current champion of 4 weight classes, 135, 140, 147, 154, isn't that what we call P4P? And now he is about to take on Ortiz, another real welterweight champion. Oh and how about that no made up belts or catchweights in the picture. Oh and Floyd is all natural no PEDS, how nice

That sig is probably the most cringeworthy and devastatingly unfunny thing I have seen on this forum. Seriously, did you sit there and come up with that lttle rhyme yourself?

I ***in s****** everytime I see you post!

[zdrx]

first nego: floyd inserted OSDT-RBT demand. pacman the champion hesitated because he will look like an idiot if he accepted too quickly a challenger's absurd demand.
as a professional, he had to act in deference to NSAC. PACMAN DID NOT REJECT BLOOD TEST, but subjected it to negotiation.
pacman asked for 18 days cut off to have training days without interference from blood test personnel...but floyd stick to his 14 days demand. nego collapsed due to their 4 days difference .
after the clottey fight, pacman declared he's ready for floyd's 14 days...and floyd declared NO CUT-OFF.

second nego: floyd stick to his new demand of NO CUT-OFF. exasperated pacman agreed to be blood tested even during the fight. AND FLOYD DISAPPEARED, DENIED THE NEGO, SCAMPERED IN EVERY POSSIBLE DIRECTIONS, HAD PANIC ATTACKS, SELF DESTRUCT AND NEARLY LOST HIS MIND.

[Pinoy4ever]

Keep on Schaefer say all the things about Floyd whom U co promoting.

[zdrx]

during and after the second nego...floyd became like a man who was stripped naked of his cover...and ran in circles like a headless chicken. you wonder why? perhaps this can answer your question:

AllHipHop.com:..... Now, you’re willing to compromise on the blood testing. You weren’t as flexible earlier this year and walked away to take another fight. Do you regret not compromising during the first negotiations and fighting Joshua Clottey?

Pacquiao:..... [Pauses] Um, no. I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the Mayweather fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What else can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.

to read the interview in full...go to yahoo and type:


Manny Pacquiao: Politics As Usual

[kidrak]

first nego: floyd inserted OSDT-RBT demand. pacman the champion hesitated because he will look like an idiot if he accepted too quickly a challenger's absurd demand.
as a professional, he had to act in deference to NSAC. PACMAN DID NOT REJECT BLOOD TEST, but subjected it to negotiation.
pacman asked for 18 days cut off to have training days without interference from blood test personnel...but floyd stick to his 14 days demand. nego collapsed due to their 4 days difference .
after the clottey fight, pacman declared he's ready for floyd's 14 days...and floyd declared NO CUT-OFF.

second nego: floyd stick to his new demand of NO CUT-OFF. exasperated pacman agreed to be blood tested even during the fight. AND FLOYD DISAPPEARED, DENIED THE NEGO, SCAMPERED IN EVERY POSSIBLE DIRECTIONS, HAD PANIC ATTACKS, SELF DESTRUCT AND NEARLY LOST HIS MIND.

this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[kidrak]

mark this words and remember..

a rich promoter in philippines told my japanese friend that manny vs floyd will happen 2012..they will get 100million each..

remember this^^

all of this are drama to make this fight more bigger!

[Chopper417]

After the Cotto fight fans want Floyd but he refused so Pac fought Clottey. After Clottey fans want Floyd and he refused again. After Margarito fans and Pac wants Floyd and he refused again. After Mosley fight fans want Floyd and he said he's not available, then he will fight Ortiz instead. The conclusion is Floyd is afraid of the Pacman...

My dear God you are an idiot.

[SceneSpectator!]

Manny Pacquiao and his promoter have been pre booking his fights for the last 2 years. Dude, posts like yours are getting pretty old. Serious boxing fans who have followed the sport for years understand what Arum and Pacquiao are doing, and why their doing it. Manny may not be scared to fight Floyd, but he has proven very reluctant to make his own decision regarding whom he should fight. We can only hope May 2012 the fight becomes reality.

Dude, How long Pac should wait for Floyd before he consider fighting others??? After beating Joshua, Pac waited for Floyd, and when Floyd did not respond, he went for Margarito, while Floyd under fire for so much criticism was forced to take Shane at last minute when Berto back-out from Shane. After pac beats margarito, he dared Floyd to step on the plate but Floyd after beating Shane went for vacation again! Pac have no recourse than challenging Shane but after beating Shane, Team Pac waited for Floyd to come out from vacation, but no word came out from Floyd. Now that Pac tied with JMM, Floyd decided late again to face Ortiz.. and now you will say because pac is tied up???

Well, I think if Floyd will come up to challenge Pac at this stage, Pac wil accept this and will set aside JMM for the moment and I think JMM will accept this in return with good offer, including assurance that he will be next. Or if not, then Floyd and Pac should agree to term this time that they will face each others after their respective fights, just in case they both won.

But I doubt if Floyd will face Pac next, bec. the obvious intention of Floyd is to let Pac tied up first to others so he could freely roam to shops for an easy prey! Floyd is scared to Pac, plain and simple!

[The Big Dunn]

Dude, How long Pac should wait for Floyd before he consider fighting others??? After beating Joshua, Pac waited for Floyd, and when Floyd did not respond, he went for Margarito, while Floyd under fire for so much criticism was forced to take Shane at last minute when Berto back-out from Shane. After pac beats margarito, he dared Floyd to step on the plate but Floyd after beating Shane went for vacation again! Pac have no recourse than challenging Shane but after beating Shane, Team Pac waited for Floyd to come out from vacation, but no word came out from Floyd. Now that Pac tied with JMM, Floyd decided late again to face Ortiz.. and now you will say because pac is tied up???

Well, I think if Floyd will come up to challenge Pac at this stage, Pac wil accept this and will set aside JMM for the moment and I think JMM will accept this in return with good offer, including assurance that he will be next. Or if not, then Floyd and Pac should agree to term this time that they will face each others after their respective fights, just in case they both won.

But I doubt if Floyd will face Pac next, bec. the obvious intention of Floyd is to let Pac tied up first to others so he could freely roam to shops for an easy prey! Floyd is scared to Pac, plain and simple!

WHy didn't Pac just agree to OST and fight floyd in January 2010? I mean floyd compromised by going from 0 to 14 days. Manny said no deal. Does MAnny at fault for that or is it floyd's fault because he asked for OST after agreeing to all of Manny's requests?

[SceneSpectator!]

Stop trying to rewrite history...

Dec 28, 2009

Let the record be clear: Manny Pacquiao and his promoter Bob Arum are threatening to walk away from the largest fight in history. The fact is that random blood and urine testing was one of the many deal points and was listed along with the others, such as the financial split, the weight, financial penalty for being overweight, the appointment of the foreign sales agent, the production of the marketing assets, the gloves and many more. Team Mayweather made major concessions in many of these areas and we were optimistic that Team Pacquiao would do the same as it related to the request for random blood and urine testing, which Floyd Mayweather agreed to immediately.

http://www.*********.com/Boxing/gold...tatement-33935

That's just for starters.

Hey dude you're talking much pretty old..! your fact is based on old testament but you want to skip the new one! The latest fact was, Floyd had agreed for the blood test terms as he stated publicly, yet he still refused for the fight for the reason, he was in vacation! cool!!! the latest culprit for new negotiation was, he demanded for $100M!!! enough to torpedo any impending plan for re-negotiation! Hahaha! **** Floyd, your too way scared to Pac!!! Just thinking on how much he get from Ortiz fight???