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  • #41
    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
    WHy didn't Pac just agree to OST and fight floyd in January 2010? I mean floyd compromised by going from 0 to 14 days. Manny said no deal. Does MAnny at fault for that or is it floyd's fault because he asked for OST after agreeing to all of Manny's requests?
    Didn't he said that he believes that drawing blood so close to the fight will weaken him?? Belief is made in your mind for years that you can not remove overnight, and questioning it makes you ******. What matters now is that, he is now mentally reconditioned that drawing blood from him afterall will not weaken him, and now he agreed to face Floyd! The ball is completely on Floyd!!!

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    • #42
      Originally posted by SceneSpectator! View Post
      Didn't he said that he believes that drawing blood so close to the fight will weaken him?? Belief is made in your mind for years that you can not remove overnight, and questioning it makes you ******. What matters now is that, he is now mentally reconditioned that drawing blood from him afterall will not weaken him, and now he agreed to face Floyd! The ball is completely on Floyd!!!
      Respectfully, that was his 2nd reason. the first was he was afraid of needles.

      Belief is made in your mind for years that you can not remove overnight, and questioning it makes you ******.

      So floyd thinking Manny is on PEd's and his request for random OST up to the day of the fight is understandable given your post.

      As soon as he agrees to random OST (which he has not) then we can fight. Floyd has NEVER taken that offer off the table.

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      • #43
        Manny Pacquiao has officially played himself out.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
          Respectfully, that was his 2nd reason. the first was he was afraid of needles.

          Belief is made in your mind for years that you can not remove overnight, and questioning it makes you ******.

          So floyd thinking Manny is on PEd's and his request for random OST up to the day of the fight is understandable given your post.

          As soon as he agrees to random OST (which he has not) then we can fight. Floyd has NEVER taken that offer off the table.
          Present me a trend that pac openly said he is afraid of needles? Look at his body, he have so many tattoes, right? but of course, those tatoos were not made close to his fights! Only critics who come up with this imagination told this!

          So floyd thinking Manny is on PEd's and his request for random OST up to the day of the fight is understandable given your post
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          Tell me, when Floyd has this belief if this eversince he fought or just when he consider Pac as his foe in the ring? This is not what I am talking about dude, because this is not in Floyd's mind in years he fought others while he was using xylocaine.. he did not subject others for OST blood test, only started when he realized that Pac his potential enemy in the ring.. it was not made for years in his mind dude..

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          • #45
            Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN View Post
            I always said that one day the media would have to write the truth.
            Too many writers have a hidden agenda or are on Bobs payroll.

            Facts are facts and Bob Arum is a fat fraud who doesn't give a **** about Mayweather vs Pacquiao.

            He could care less if that fight happens.
            I promise you that Ortiz will be Pacquiao's next opponent after Floyd destroys him.

            Yes I order all of Pacquaio's fights except the Mosley , Hatton, and Clottey fights.
            Didn't order those fights because i knew Hatton was finish after the Lazcano fight.
            I knew Mosley was finished after the mora fight, and I knew Clottey was a joke.

            I wish pacquiao would get like delahoya and mayweather.
            Be your own boss.

            Bob Arum is not getting a dollar from me with this Marquez fight.
            Not because it's not a good fight, but because I will not support such an evil man.
            Why would he stop two boxers from making 100 million each?

            That is crazy. Pacquiao is to blame because he allows it.
            With his constant talk to my promoter crap.
            I don't like Bob style of handling his stable either, esp, how he holds Donaire for a descent fight, a complete disgust and time wasting he gave that Donaire will suffer.. However, his determination to get Pac with Floyd I believe is sincere. His desire for this was so open that makes Floyd simply no word on this!

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            • #46
              Originally posted by J Dubb II 330 View Post
              explain how Floyd has cherry picked but Pac hasn't
              Simple, Floyd refuse to face Pac.. and Pac open to face Floyd! I'm talking now, not the old issue that others tried to use as an argument again and again! But skipped the fact that Floyd had openly come to terms with this issue and no longer an issue! If Floyd refuse to fight him and he cherry picked easy prey, then Pac have no recourse than to pick also somebody else who is more than willing to fight him! Now, who is the real cherry-picker???

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              • #47
                Originally posted by SceneSpectator! View Post
                Simple, Floyd refuse to face Pac.. and Pac open to face Floyd! I'm talking now, not the old issue that others tried to use as an argument again and again! But skipped the fact that Floyd had openly come to terms with this issue and no longer an issue! If Floyd refuse to fight him and he cherry picked easy prey, then Pac have no recourse than to pick also somebody else who is more than willing to fight him! Now, who is the real cherry-picker???
                well manny should have still took the test RANDOMLY btw after manny is gone your boxing is dead

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by IslaSimio View Post
                  well manny should have still took the test RANDOMLY btw after manny is gone your boxing is dead
                  you're lagged behind of boxing news dude.. btw just in case you don't know, pac had accepted this blood testing required by Floyd, and he even dared Floyd to submit themselves for a blood testing before Round 6 begin, if ever Floyd survive on that round..

                  Btw, what country do you belong? Philippines fav sports is basketball, and second is boxing! We are in the sports long time, and as a matter of fact, some dies from great war in the arena and we produced champions since the early 1900, and they boxed in the US! Checked it out for your self if you don't believe! And the Filipino interest to the sports started definitely not from Pac and much more will not go the drain should Pac leaves the sports! And I am sure, you are not a boxing fan but a pure hater!

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by SceneSpectator! View Post
                    you're lagged behind of boxing news dude.. btw just in case you don't know, pac had accepted this blood testing required by Floyd, and he even dared Floyd to submit themselves for a blood testing before Round 6 begin, if ever Floyd survive on that round..

                    Btw, what country do you belong? Philippines fav sports is basketball, and second is boxing! We are in the sports long time, and as a matter of fact, some dies from great war in the arena and we produced champions since the early 1900, and they boxed in the US! Checked it out for your self if you don't believe! And the Filipino interest to the sports started definitely not from Pac and much more will not go the drain should Pac leaves the sports! And I am sure, you are not a boxing fan but a pure hater!
                    LOL you guys suck at basketball and all sports you guys have had only 2 hall of famers in boxing 3 with pac

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by JAS_JAS View Post
                      and why did richard schaeffer remove the fact that OSCAR cherrypicked pacquiao and oscar was a 3-1 odds fav on that fight, and oh ricky hatton moved up in weight to fight floyd and looked **** in that weight class before that, and manny fought 2 tough fights with marquez in their natuaral weight class, lolz thats what you call selective memory... and oh oh he beat them in more impressive fashion except marquez because this we will see this november......young and hungry doesnt mean your good enough to fight floyd or manny...
                      why did you mention that oscar hasnt fought at 147 in almost 8 yrs! and that per contract oscar had to wt 147 on fight night so he couldnt re hydrate? floyd beat oscar at 154 manny beat him wt drained at 147 how is that a > victory? and while i do say pac won the 1st fight with jmm, IMO he lost the 2nd fight. and why wont he face jmm at 140? he says he can still make that wt.

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