Ortiz will have to do as Castillo

[Rip Chudd]

think i read something like this b4..... something roach stated not so long ago

If he did then he's right.

[Daim]

Something Pac hasn NEVER done too.(Fight a young fighter in his prime, boxer/brawler with a lot of heart.)

Ummm, who mentioned Pac?

Get Floyds **** out of your mouth dumb ****.

[tangalog2200]

Something Pac hasn NEVER done too.(Fight a young fighter in his prime, boxer/brawler with a lot of heart.)

can you list down the names and ages of all pac's foes from his early days to the present?

[Evil Abed]

ortiz fought good on the inside against berto

He head hunted way to much while Berto was hurt on the ropes.

That uppercut-left hook is nice though.

[Steven Adams]

body punching and Ortiz... aint happening

[No1]

ortiz fought good on the inside against berto

The gap beetween someone like Berto and Floyd is huge. I like Ortiz but he will have to fight the fight of his life to beat Mayweather, he has to use controlled aggression and dont lunge in with straight lefts as he normally does.

[skillswin]

the first fight with castillo floyd was injured, thats why in the rematch a few months later floyd beat him easy

you cant fight floyd the same way like other fighter did, he already know how to beat that style

[Fox McCloud]

If Ortiz is coming forward it dosen't matter what hand he uses.

Being a lefty is a only a huge advantage if someone is coming for you.

I'm not sure I agree with this. The first example that came to mind was the first few rounds of Mayweather Jr.-Judah. Judah was doing well without Floyd coming at him... at worst they were standing their ground in the middle of the ring. I can't remember if Zab was actively moving forward against Floyd thought... it's been forever since I watched that fight.

But do remember that fight changed the moment Floyd started moving forward and pressuring (not so) Super Judah, so... that is at least an example that shows that what you said is not always true.

The 2 posters above me got it right.

In order to do what the OP described, first Ortiz would have to develop skills like Castillo which he doesn't have.

Castillo's inside skills (and him and his career in general honestly) are one of the most underrated facets of boxing in the last twenty years. I would take Castillo's skills on the inside over any fighter who has fought since 1990, except MAYBE Julio Cesar Chavez Sr... MAYBE.

ortiz fought good on the inside against berto

Disagree. That whole fight was contested at about mid range, when they were both in each other's range, but not shoulder to shoulder. The action from the whole fight was mainly straight punchers, which are almost never seen in inside fighting.

That was a different version of Floyd. Not nearly as big or strong at the time and not as seasoned. That stuff wont work on Floyd now, even if its a prime Castillo

This is definitely true... he proved in the rematch that he had learned his lesson, winning a decision free of controversy. Plus, logic tells you that he has only gotten better and more polished since then, so it's hard to use Castillo as a relevant example for anything to do with any current/future fights that Mayweather Jr. will be involved in.

Am I the only one who knows that Floyd had a torn rotator cuff in that fight? Cmon fellas.

Sure, there is that, although I do think DLT has the more relevant point. Floyd's biggest problem in the first Castillo fight was laying on the ropes more so than not using his jab because of his injured left shoulder.

ortiz is a bum and will lose horribly

God I wish I hadn't given out so much karma in the last twenty four hours. This post is extremely ignorant, and I would love to give it some red. Hopefully more than a few posters have already done the job for me.

Something Pac hasn NEVER done too.(Fight a young fighter in his prime, boxer/brawler with a lot of heart.)

It's unclear to me a very good/great boxer has to be in their prime AND young... if they are in their prime (the best version seen in their career), why does it matter what age they are? Anyway, I'd say that at least Marquez fits the bill of a prime fighter with plenty of heart that can both put on a technical boxing clinic, as well as go to war and see who has more desire to win the match... and he fought him twice, with the older version of Marquez looking like the better version of Marquez to my eyes.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Ortiz is no JLC and JLC used a good Jab to get close to Floyd's body..I don't see Ortiz bring anything to the table to really trouble Mayweather in this fight..He is too young and imo not skilled enough to beat Mayweather..

[Fox McCloud]

Ortiz is no JLC and JLC used a good Jab to get close to Floyd's body..I don't see Ortiz bring anything to the table to really trouble Mayweather in this fight..He is too young and imo not skilled enough to beat Mayweather..

That aspect of Castillo's game was one of the simplest, yet most among the most impressive skills that I have seen in boxing. The keys to victory or whatever Showtime calls it before Castillo-Corrales II highlighted that. It was so silky smooth and effective that I likely never would have noticed it or paid it any attention had Showtime not pointed it out for me. Just incredible...