Is Fighting the worlds second best welterweight really 'cherrypicking'?

[Rassclot]

Okay i dont care about your thoughts on all this Pac-May saga, Pacquiao is clearly NOT available at the minute.

So given ALL the available opponents now, who do you want Floyd to fight on September 19th at 147? Now think good and hard about all the fighters who have yet to have an opponent to fight.

I want to know why the b1tch move by Floyd? Why couldn't he fight Pac?

[Rick Grimes]

Um Arum and Koncs both reached out to Gayweather's camp and Gayweather straight turned them down. Catch up with the times idiyat.


And the negoatiation before that too. Ross Greenburg had to come out and say there were negotiations when Gayweather's camp denied it.


LOL @ your gay love. How does that nutsack taste?

Yep and he was offered $65 million too. You really are a ****** if you believe what Arum says. Mayweather made a public challenge and Pac's team didn't even reply and went on to sign the JMM fight. Mayweather-Ortiz is a better fight than Pacquiao-JMM, Pacquiao could have fought Ortiz but he chose the easier fight like he usually does.

[The Big Dunn]

Geez, what is preventing Floyd from moving up at 154. If he didnt want to fight Martinez, he could fight Angulo, or any of the contenders in that division. Williams, who recently lose to Martinez, would still be a better fight than Ortiz.

WW is a **** division right now. The top fighters there have already moved up in weight, defeated, or retired. The only fighter left there is Pac, and some few fighters at 140, who are looking to move up at 147. There are also young fighters like Lara, Ortiz but they are still untested, and definitely not ready at that level..

He only went to 154 to fight ODH and make dough. He isn't a 154lb thats why he hasn't gone up to fight those guys.

Ortiz simply earned the right to fight Floyd or Manny by beating a guy who most people thought was good enough to fight either one.

NO, Ortiz is not on floyd's level but no one is.

[Ishy Aytan]

I want to know why the b1tch move by Floyd? Why couldn't he fight Pac?

Okay i cant answer that question because i dont know why they havent thought. Floyd says he wont fight until Manny commits to full random blood testing, so i guess thats the reason.

But we've had over a hundred threads on this topic. Forget about it. Theyre not fighting. End of discussion.

Now who would you like Floyd to fight at 147 on september 19th?

[The Big Dunn]

I want to know why the b1tch move by Floyd? Why couldn't he fight Pac?

Floyd: I agree to small ring, punchers gloves and 10 mil per lb over 147
Manny: OK
Floyd: I want you to take random OST for PED's
Manny: I'm scared of needles, no fight.
Rassclot: Guees floyd is scared and a pu$$y

FYI, floyd was ranked #1 until beginnin of May when most sites copied Dan Rafael's move (done soley for attention) by announcing he would remove floyd from ranking because he hadn't fought in over a year.

[madsweeney]

Will someone please answer me this. How is Ortiz this great WW, when he has one win @ WW, and it was against a guy who was never really tested there. Wait, was Ortiz even ranked at JrWW? What, not on top 10 @ JrWW either!?! Must be a great fighter!!

This is a good fight,a legit opponent but lets get things strait, aside from the Berto win (which was good for him, not great for anybody) what has he done to show he's even a B level fighter?

[Rassclot]

Yep and he was offered $65 million too. You really are a ****** if you believe what Arum says. Mayweather made a public challenge and Pac's team didn't even reply and went on to sign the JMM fight. Mayweather-Ortiz is a better fight than Pacquiao-JMM, Pacquiao could have fought Ortiz but he chose the easier fight like he usually does.

that was a speculative story. do you know how to read? you might want to check up on your facts. Koncs is the one that denied it.

They did however reach out to Mayweather's camp which was still in vacation mode and kept their negotiation absolutely private like they had something to hide. and now yeah announce this cherry picked fight after JMM/Pac was a lock.


You really are ******ed.

[Rassclot]

Floyd: I agree to small ring, punchers gloves and 10 mil per lb over 147
Manny: OK
Floyd: I want you to take random OST for PED's
Manny: I'm scared of needles, no fight.
Rassclot: Guees floyd is scared and a pu$$y

FYI, floyd was ranked #1 until beginnin of May when most sites copied Dan Rafael's move (done soley for attention) by announcing he would remove floyd from ranking because he hadn't fought in over a year.

*shakes head*

Pac already agreed.

[borikua]

lol like welterweight is staked with talent right now lol

[The Big Dunn]

Will someone please answer me this. How is Ortiz this great WW, when he has one win @ WW, and it was against a guy who was never really tested there. Wait, was Ortiz even ranked at JrWW? What, not on top 10 @ JrWW either!?! Must be a great fighter!!

This is a good fight,a legit opponent but lets get things strait, aside from the Berto win (which was good for him, not great for anybody) what has he done to show he's even a B level fighter?

He isn't a great ww. He did just beat the 3rd ranked ww in the world and won a belt at 147. That does give him instant credibility at the weight especially since its his first time at the weight.