Puga was arguing saying that I said Ortiz was not a top P4P fighter.
WW P4P list does not exist.
It's either a P4P list or a WW list.
Also Puga might be right. P4P is an mythical opinion based ranking.
You showing Rafael ranking for what purpose exactly? Because, one person has him on a list?
Boxingscene ranking and The ring ranking over Rafael.
That fat **** is not a good writer/journalist and a very biased mofo.
Give me your top 10 P4P.
I'm just curios to see it? I don't have Ortiz in my top 10 P4P....It doesn't matter though cuz' P4P is make belief. There is no official list for make belief rankings. P4P is not official.
However, divisional rankings is a different story. You can have an official ranking. However, against I wouldn't go with Rafael. He has some very odd choices.
Point being WW P4P list makes no sense. It's a WW ranking and a P4P ranking.
"Other than eachother of course at WW, the fans wanted Pacquiao vs Ortiz." Eachother=Mayweather vs Pacquiao.
The fans actually wanted Pacquiao vs Berto/Pacquiao vs Martinez, or Pacquiao vs Bradley. But once Oritz beat Berto, the fans wanted Pacquiao vs Ortiz, which only makes sense.
Sure Pac vs Ortiz makes sense! I agreed with you with that! but with top rank and GB promotion this fight never happen! and my topic is floyd should pick pac first because that's what people really want to see. but never happen as well
if Manny would've just fought the young UNBEATEN lion in Berto instead of the old battle bitten warrior in Shane...Floyd would not have this dance imo and ppl would be praising Manny for beatin the breaks of Berto...but it went down like it went down and now Floyd has exposed Manny and his team without even throwin a punch imo...I keep sayin this...TIME MASTERS ILLUSION.....I told ppl along time ago...by the time Floyd and Manny finally fight...the roles will be reversed...Manny will be the villian and Floyd will be the hero....now watch nature take its course lol
Also Puga might be right. P4P is an mythical opinion based ranking.
You showing Rafael ranking for what purpose exactly? Because, one person has him on a list?
Boxingscene ranking and The ring ranking over Rafael.
That fat **** is not a good writer/journalist and a very biased mofo.
Give me your top 10 P4P.
I'm just curios to see it? I don't have Ortiz in my top 10 P4P....It doesn't matter though cuz' P4P is make belief. There is no official list for make belief rankings. P4P is not official.
However, divisional rankings is a different story. You can have an official ranking. However, against I wouldn't go with Rafael. He has some very odd choices.
Point being WW P4P list makes no sense. It's a WW ranking and a P4P ranking.
Yea thats what I meant, the 2ND ranked WW, not number 2 P4P because if you don't country Floyd they have Martinez at number 2.
But mines..
1. Manny Pacquiao (unfortunely)
2. Sergio Martinez
3. Juan Marquez
4. Andre Ward
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Vital Klitschko
8. Nonito Donaire
9. Tim Bradley
10.Carl Froch.
0 consistency on this forum, 1st Berto is a bum and Ortiz is green, they almost KO'd each other several times, and now they ready for Mayweather/Pacman.
Ortiz has little chance in this, someone try prove to me differently.
Yea thats what I meant, the 2ND ranked WW, not number 2 P4P because if you don't country Floyd they have Martinez at number 2.
But mines..
1. Manny Pacquiao (unfortunely)
2. Sergio Martinez
3. Juan Marquez
4. Andre Ward
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Vital Klitschko
8. Nonito Donaire
9. Tim Bradley
10.Carl Froch.
Gotcha, very nice P4P list. I don't know about Vitaly, I don't have him in my top 20. But, at the end is just a personal opinion. It's all mythical there is no correct P4P list. You can put whoever you want up there. No P4P list is better than the other.
Mine is
1. Pacquiao (at the end of the year he might drop to my #3, I would probably put Floyd at #2, if he beats Ortiz)
2. Martinez (if things are going like they're going he might take the #1 spot)
3. Donaire
4. Marquez
5. W Klitschko
6. Froch
7. Bradley
8. Hopkins
9. Ward
10. Wonjongkam
Next 5 in no order, Khan, Adamek, Segura, Moreno, and Bute.
Gotcha, very nice P4P list. I don't know about Vitaly, I don't have him in my top 20. But, at the end is just a personal opinion. It's all mythical there is no correct P4P list. You can put whoever you want up there. No P4P list is better than the other.
Mine is
1. Pacquiao (at the end of the year he might drop to my #3, I would probably put Floyd at #2, if he beats Ortiz)
2. Martinez (if things are going like they're going he might take the #1 spot)
3. Donaire
4. Marquez
5. W Klitschko
6. Froch
7. Bradley
8. Hopkins
9. Ward
10. Wonjongkam
Next 5 in no order, Khan, Adamek, Segura, Moreno, and Bute.
I really wanna put Martinez at number 1 on my P4P list, but I just don't know, if he beats one more good opponent it's even gonna be him or Floyd (depending on what happens after Ortiz).
Would you put KHAN on your P4P list if he beats Judah?
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