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  • kingfaze19
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    #51
    i been bashin on floyd but i cant knock this opponent , he will definetly have the hardest fight compared to manny fighting JMM. Ortiz coming off the fight of the year in an upset win over Berto , Floyd chose him .. Mosley was coming off the destruction of Margarito and was crowned top dog at 147 , Floyd chose him as well ... cant hate on Floyd , this is not cherry picking , Ortiz is a great fighter , no hating on this one

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    • boxingfan76
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      #52
      I cant stand mayweather,pac or ortiz for diffrent reasons, however mayweathers fights mean far more when it counts. pacroid is completley unwilling to take that type of risk he ducked mosley in 09, ducked jmm in o8 ducked betro and ortiz and martinez or any credible opponent this year and the past 3 , , and frankly his last 6 fights were garbage in every possible sense. garbage only hardcore manny fans could defend. Mayweather so far has 1 upped pac every step of the way just by opponent selection it means a lot its setting the template. pac maybe "it" if only for activity but mayweather in this era is the cream of the crop in talent and ability period .

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      • jrosales13
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        #53
        Originally posted by BoxingFollower
        I really wanna put Martinez at number 1 on my P4P list, but I just don't know, if he beats one more good opponent it's even gonna be him or Floyd (depending on what happens after Ortiz).

        Would you put KHAN on your P4P list if he beats Judah?
        Depending on how he wins I would. I would most likely have him on there instead of Wonjongkam. But, if Wonjongkam finally fights Sosa this year and beats him. I might keep Wonjongkam up there. Or if Adamek somehow beats Vitaly he might replace Wonjongkam.

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        • Steven Adams
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          #54
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          WW P4P list does not exist.

          It's either a P4P list or a WW list.

          Also Puga might be right. P4P is an mythical opinion based ranking.

          You showing Rafael ranking for what purpose exactly? Because, one person has him on a list?

          Boxingscene ranking and The ring ranking over Rafael.

          That fat **** is not a good writer/journalist and a very biased mofo.

          Give me your top 10 P4P.

          I'm just curios to see it? I don't have Ortiz in my top 10 P4P....It doesn't matter though cuz' P4P is make belief. There is no official list for make belief rankings. P4P is not official.

          However, divisional rankings is a different story. You can have an official ranking. However, against I wouldn't go with Rafael. He has some very odd choices.

          Point being WW P4P list makes no sense. It's a WW ranking and a P4P ranking.

          damn.. for real jro? p4p.. mythical?

          I swear some people swear by that 'p4p' sheit on nsb

          and ww p4p makes no damn sense.

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          • -Kev-
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            #55
            Originally posted by raiden10
            Sure Pac vs Ortiz makes sense! I agreed with you with that! but with top rank and GB promotion this fight never happen! and my topic is floyd should pick pac first because that's what people really want to see. but never happen as well
            Okay the fight never happened with Ortiz "because of GBP".

            But what happened with picking Mosley over Berto? Remember Arum said it's Pacquiao's choice to choose from Marquez, Mosley, or Berto? Pacquiao picked the oldest one there.

            And what happened with Bradley?

            What about Martinez?

            None of those fighters are from GBP.

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            • kingfaze19
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              #56
              Originally posted by BoxingFollower
              Yea thats what I meant, the 2ND ranked WW, not number 2 P4P because if you don't country Floyd they have Martinez at number 2.

              But mines..

              1. Manny Pacquiao (unfortunely)
              2. Sergio Martinez
              3. Juan Marquez
              4. Andre Ward
              5. Bernard Hopkins
              6. Wladimir Klitschko
              7. Vital Klitschko
              8. Nonito Donaire
              9. Tim Bradley
              10.Carl Froch.
              how da **** u got marquez and ward over Bhop

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              • jrosales13
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                #57
                Originally posted by kingfaze19
                i been bashin on floyd but i cant knock this opponent , he will definetly have the hardest fight compared to manny fighting JMM. Ortiz coming off the fight of the year in an upset win over Berto , Floyd chose him .. Mosley was coming off the destruction of Margarito and was crowned top dog at 147 , Floyd chose him as well ... cant hate on Floyd , this is not cherry picking , Ortiz is a great fighter , no hating on this one
                No true fan can. You have to be just a straight up hater or a just a fan of a particular fighter only to knock this fight.

                This is a legit fight. There is nothing to criticize.

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                • KingTito
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                  #58
                  I like this fight a lot.

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by S. Tua-Hopkins
                    damn.. for real jro? p4p.. mythical?

                    I swear some people swear by that 'p4p' sheit on nsb

                    and ww p4p makes no damn sense.
                    It is a mythical opinion based ranking.

                    P4P means if both fighters were same size, same height, same reach, naturally same weight, style vs style, skill vs skill, who would win. That's make belief. There is actually no factual on the outcome.

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                    • BoxingFollower
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by S. Tua-Hopkins
                      damn.. for real jro? p4p.. mythical?

                      I swear some people swear by that 'p4p' sheit on nsb

                      and ww p4p makes no damn sense.
                      Well when it comes to ME, I just feel that the P4P list is generated by the Media is what everybody looks at. It's what boxers THEMSELVES go by, and thats also because most P4P rankings match or are similiar when it comes to websites like ESPN, FOX and etc.

                      But like jrosales said. its all about your personal opinion, P4P rankings is not set in stone.

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