Should Ortiz Train at the Wild Card with Roach and Pacquiao's help?

[D4thincarnation]

That's true. I don't see pac coming down here for **** other then to pick up another massive check or train, he's got boat loads of **** to do. If ortiz asked roach for some pointers on how to get to floyd I'm sure roach would give him some advise, but there aint no way in hell he's just laying out his full game plan for floyd. As much as I like ortiz he isn't on that level to be a real threat to mayweather and roach knows that, no way roach is giving away any secrets he's worked up in case floyd and pac ever do throw down.

There is more than one way to skin a cat

[JoeDaWg]

There is more than one way to skin a cat

I feel what ur saying but ortiz and pac are both lefties with power, the game plan might not be identical but there would no doubt be similarities. I'm all for vic getting whatever he can out of roach. All I'm saying is from roachs chair, there is one man who can beat floyd, why give away ANYTHING i might need later in the real fight. Why give floyd a sneak peak into what they're thinking?

[Team Vitaminas]

Absolutely not!!!,The only one that learns is Pacquiao,all the others fall under false confidence that being in with the so called best that no one can beat them.plus he'll fuck up his chances of fighting Pacquiao by giving away his skill through sparring with him in the event he pulls of the upset.

[Roja's480]

Freddie Roach cant even train Chavez Jr what makes you think he would do a good job with Ortiz

[D4thincarnation]

I feel what ur saying but ortiz and pac are both lefties with power, the game plan might not be identical but there would no doubt be similarities. I'm all for vic getting whatever he can out of roach. All I'm saying is from roachs chair, there is one man who can beat floyd, why give away ANYTHING i might need later in the real fight. Why give floyd a sneak peak into what they're thinking?

Maybe, if Ortiz wins, the Mayweather vs Pacquiao really has no chance of happening.

But, Ortiz can't do the things Pacquiao does, so the gameplan will be different.

Ortiz should start jabbing now, he really need to improve that.

Berto caught Ortiz with that straight right all the time, Ortiz need watch that fight and little step to the right should sort that as well as setting up the right hook for the counter against the jab, not sure if Ortiz has the speed to pull it off though.

[D4thincarnation]

Freddie Roach cant even train Chavez Jr what makes you think he would do a good job with Ortiz

Chavez jr, Mr Miyagi, Micky Goldmill and Yoda will struggle to turn that guy into a top fighter.

Roach has done a good job with Chavez, he is much improve from a couple years ago.

[hebi]

It is interesting because Ortiz is probably the closest approximation to Pacquaio that Mayweather can fight. I don't think the concept of Roach training Ortiz is gonna happen, but I am sure Roach will take a keen interest in the fight.

Bold move by Mayweather. He may not be able to work up the courage to fight Pac, but at least the rivalry is motivating him to take some risks.

[Team Vitaminas]

He trained with Freddie at the Wild Card before the Berto fight and Pacquiao gave him advice as well.

I'm sure he will go back there considering the knowledge Roach has on Mayweather's style.

He would be a fool not to

he didn't train in the wild card gym,what are you talking about?if anything he should hire Ariza to get the postions going and then it would be worth it.

[Roja's480]

Chavez jr, Mr Miyagi, Micky Goldmill and Yoda will struggle to turn that guy into a top fighter.

Roach has done a good job with Chavez, he is much improve from a couple years ago.

you act like freddie is the best trainer out there the only fighter he trained good was pac thats all scratch that pac had his gifts already freddie just helped out on the way

[Pacquiao'd]

Roach can't even come up with a game plan so many can beat. Floyd so what the hell can he do to help ortiz? NOTHING