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  • Kobayashi
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    #21
    Floyd, because styles makes fight.

    Floyd like to boxe, not to brawl. He had more problem with pressure fighter. Lost to Castillo once. Nobody can outbox him.

    Pac is the best brawler out there. Nobody can win if they want to exchange with Pac.

    Ortiz won't pass 4 rounds againt Pac. He can finish the fight againt Floyd and have a puncher stance like Mosley. Both beat him easy.

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    • lightsout_finit
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      #22
      Neither.
      Equally unlikely.

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      • CarlosG815
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        #23
        Originally posted by Kobayashi
        Floyd, because styles makes fight.

        Floyd like to boxe, not to brawl. He had more problem with pressure fighter. Lost to Castillo once. Nobody can outbox him.

        Pac is the best brawler out there. Nobody can win if they want to exchange with Pac.

        Ortiz won't pass 4 rounds againt Pac. He can finish the fight againt Floyd and have a puncher stance like Mosley. Both beat him easy.
        Just like how young and at the peak of their prime guys like Clottey, Margarito, and 39 year old Shane Mosley with a 50 cent piece size blister on his foot and a torn ACL couldn't make it past four rounds. Yup, all those top ranked, young and hungry guys at the TOP OF THEIR GAME couldn't get past 4 rounds vs Pac.

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        • Rome-By-Ko
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          #24
          Neither...

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          • puga
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            #25
            floyd...ortiz is a young , explosiv southpaw.......floyds nightmare.....
            Last edited by puga; 06-06-2011, 11:27 PM.

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            • Major Motoko
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              #26
              Lol, at all these delusional Pacroid and Gayweather nut huggers. When was the last time either those fools fought someone like Victor Ortiz?

              Lets see Pacquiao's most recent opponents; flat footed, slow, and weight drained.

              Now Mayweather's most recent opponents; lightweights, light welterweights, past prime, and senior citizens.

              Thats right, Victor Ortiz represents the exact opposite of Manny and Floyd's requirements for an opponent. He would expose them both. Thats why they keep ducking him and will continue to duck him till they retire.

              Vicious Victor Ortiz destroys both by TKO.
              Last edited by Major Motoko; 06-06-2011, 11:29 PM.

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              • Major Motoko
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                #27
                Originally posted by puga
                floyd...ortiz is an young , explosiv southpaw.......floyds nightmare.....
                This. ^^^

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                • ThePrince
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by paper cats
                  Lol, at all these delusional Pacroid and Gayweather nut huggers. When was the last time either those fools fought someone like Victor Ortiz?

                  Lets see Pacquiao's most recent opponents; flat footed, slow, and weight drained.

                  Now Mayweather's most recent opponents; lightweights, light welterweights, past prime, and senior citizens.

                  Thats right, Victor Ortiz represents the exact opposite of Manny and Floyd's requirements for an opponent. He would expose them. Thats why they keep ducking him and will continue to duck him till they retire.

                  Vicious Victor Ortiz destroys both by TKO.
                  Riiiiiiiiiiight

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                  • maguirre
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                    #29
                    Actually, Arum had mentioned Ortiz for Pac even weeks before the GBP apology and even before Schaefer was said to have cooperated in making the Marquez trilogy. So I wouldn't be surprised if this is the next fight for Pac, assuming Mayweather will never come out of hiding.

                    This fight is more likely to happen than the Pac/Bradley fight in the Arum camp.

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                    • check hook
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                      #30
                      It's difficult to say. Manny likes to **** and Ortiz has alot of power in both hands, he could catch Manny coming in and finish it with one punch. Problem is that the reverse is also true. Ortiz slugged alot with Berto and was wide open alot of the time.....Manny could also poleaxe him with a good shot.

                      Floyd might outbox and frustrate Ortiz with his straight right hand and superior judge of distance. Ortiz doesn't really jab that much, he may have problems getting close to Floyd consistently. On the other hand Floyd usually finds it harder to get his offense going against SP's unless he fights aggressively, and he has shown a propensity to get caught against SP's and Vic has power in both hands.

                      Ortiz presents challenges to both men, that's why everyone is talking about Ortiz vs Manny vs Floyd. Ortiz is bigger than both of them at 147, throws alot of punches (is a SP, so no SP advantage for Manny), has 12 round stamina, showed a much improved beard against Berto (because he didn't drain down to make weight), and can punch with power from both hands and mixes up his attack (right hooks and uppercuts, straight lefts, uppercuts and hooks).

                      Both are compelling fights IMHO.

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