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  • puga
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    #11
    Originally posted by Bushbaby
    Ask urself right now pugy,would U rather have payrd 60 bucks to watch ur lover Pacman fight Clottey over Martinez??How bout Pacman-Margarito??Would have rathered that over Martinez??Finally Pacman-Mosley,would U have preferred to dish out bread for that over Martinez??

    Now I understand that the Clottey fight was in the past,But we all know that Pacman-Martinez is bigger than all 3,same with Floyd vs Marquez & Mosley.Floyd-Martinez is bigger than those 2.Why are U going to sit there & act like it's not??
    id rather see pac vs matinez...but im a reastic kind a guy....pac cant fight above 150, sergio cant fight below 154...so stop pushing for it coz it aint gonna happen ..sergio aint bigger draw than cotto, margs or shane...youre just wishing he is....to say that he is, is baseless and plain ******!

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    • Bushbaby
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      #12
      Originally posted by puga
      id rather see pac vs matinez...but im a reastic kind a guy....pac cant fight above 150, sergio cant fight below 154...so stop pushing for it coz it aint gonna happen ..sergio aint bigger draw than cotto, margs or shane...youre just wishing he is....to say that he is, is baseless and plain ******!
      There there son,I'm not pushing for the fight.I know Arum won't let that happen.I'm just stating the obvious,(which U agree with).The Martinez won't sell excuse is just that.An excuse that even U admit is not true.

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      • THE_BIG_HURT
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        #13
        Originally posted by Bushbaby
        Somebody has to state the obvious here,so I'll do it.Martinez vs anyone of the big 3,or Chavez outsells Floyd's last 2 ppv's & Manny's last 3,real talk.Martinez-Chavez also outsells them.It is a lie to say that Martinez isn't known to fight fans,a blatant lie.

        The only fight that bosses on all others are Pacman-Floyd.But anyone that sits there & tries to type that Martinez won't draw against the big 3 or Chavez might as well tatoo,hater on his forehead.

        Martinez-Pacman outsells,Pacman-Clottey,Margarito & Mosley.Period.
        Martinez-Floyd outsells Floyd-Marquez & Mosley.
        Martinez-Cotto sells a bunch,maybe not as much as Pacman-Cotto though.
        Martinez-Chavez is neck & neck with Cotto-Chavez.
        i dont disagree with all of your post but Martinez/Chavez probably doesnt even make it to ppv. or at least it shouldnt...

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        • bojangles1987
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          #14
          Come on, there's no way you really believe Martinez-Chavez would sell as much as Cotto-Chavez. That's crazy. Martinez-Cotto would do alright, nothing special.

          It would be easy for Pacquiao or Mayweather to sell a fight with Martinez, but I don't think it even comes close to outselling Mayweather-Mosley. I'm not sure Pacquiao would be able to outsell what he did against Margarito or Cotto against Martinez.

          You're really overestimating how well known Martinez is, a mistake Martinez is making as well.

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          • puga
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            #15
            Originally posted by Bushbaby
            There there son,I'm not pushing for the fight.I know Arum won't let that happen.I'm just stating the obvious,(which U agree with).The Martinez won't sell excuse is just that.An excuse that even U admit is not true.
            it's not arum thats the problem this time man, thats just way too convininet !

            the real problem is both fighters cannot fight at a common weight...arum has no control over that at all.....

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            • Bushbaby
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              #16
              Originally posted by THE_BIG_HURT
              i dont disagree with all of your post but Martinez/Chavez probably doesnt even make it to ppv. or at least it shouldnt...

              It shouldn't & I've thought about it,but if I'm not mistaken I do believe that Chavez has been headlining ppv's against tomatoe cans already.


              Originally posted by bojangles1987
              Come on, there's no way you really believe Martinez-Chavez would sell as much as Cotto-Chavez. That's crazy. Martinez-Cotto would do alright, nothing special.

              It would be easy for Pacquiao or Mayweather to sell a fight with Martinez, but I don't think it even comes close to outselling Mayweather-Mosley. I'm not sure Pacquiao would be able to outsell what he did against Margarito or Cotto against Martinez.

              You're really overestimating how well known Martinez is, a mistake Martinez is making as well.

              I don't think I am.If not beats them,it'll compete with them.


              Originally posted by puga
              it's not arum thats the problem this time man, thats just way too convininet !

              the real problem is both fighters cannot fight at a common weight...arum has no control over that at all.....
              It's Arum alright.Did U ever consider the amount of dirty underground tactics that were used to get Margarito a liscense??That man couldn't get a liscnse in half the country.According to all pacman fans,he's been giving away weight since welterweight barring kangaroo Oscar.U love fight nights weight,Martinez's is almost the same as Margarito & Clottey.

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              • puga
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                #17
                Originally posted by Bushbaby

                It's Arum alright.Did U ever consider the amount of dirty underground tactics that were used to get Margarito a liscense??That man couldn't get a liscnse in half the country.According to all pacman fans,he's been giving away weight since welterweight barring kangaroo Oscar.U love fight nights weight,Martinez's is almost the same as Margarito & Clottey.
                you mofos love to say martinez is almost the same as margo and clottey , so what the hell is sergios problem at 150 then?....

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                • THE_BIG_HURT
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bushbaby
                  It shouldn't & I've thought about it,but if I'm not mistaken I do believe that Chavez has been headlining ppv's against tomatoe cans already.



                  Chavez has headlined those Latin Fury cards but they barely even register with the numbers they do. I just dont think 2 guys who dont draw will suddenly draw together, especially when the average fan just got their first dose of Chavez the other night and he wasnt exactly convincing as a legit contender to Martinez.

                  The only reason cotto chavez works as a ppv is because cotto can still draw and then its PR vs Mexico. with martinez you're missing that one crucial element

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                  • Bushbaby
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by THE_BIG_HURT
                    Chavez has headlined those Latin Fury cards but they barely even register with the numbers they do. I just dont think 2 guys who dont draw will suddenly draw together, especially when the average fan just got their first dose of Chavez the other night and he wasnt exactly convincing as a legit contender to Martinez.

                    The only reason cotto chavez works as a ppv is because cotto can still draw and then its PR vs Mexico. with martinez you're missing that one crucial element
                    I can dig it,but if this fight were made,There are 2 things that happens,there gonna show Martinez-Punisher 2 & maybe Pavlik as a review.Now I happen to believe that anyone with any remotely following of the sport knows who Martinez is by now.The name Chavez is gonna call attention period.I honestly believe it will sell.Wishful thinking??Maybe,it is what it is bro.

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                    • mushahadeen
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                      #20
                      sergio martinez couldn't sell crack to a mayweather. he is a PPV disaster.

                      but 4 the love of the sport, JR will destroy him. all sergio has 2 do is take the test. TAKE THE TEST sergio!!

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