Andre Ward home fights are exagerated and he's underappreciated.

[nomadman]

Given that Carl Froch has fought much more than Andre Ward and has lost as well, he's bound to have to fight more times outside of his home country.

How many top ranked contenders or champions has Ward fought away from home?

[Discipline]

Ward: has never fought a single CONTENDER outside of his home state

Ward's past 6 fights all in the US and in his home state of California.

Froch: fought 4 top contenders TAYLOR, JOHNSON, KESSLER and ABRAHAM outside his home country - 4 of his past 5 fights

Abraham: fought his last three last against contenders outside his home country. KOed Miranda in the US.

Kessler: Had to defend his WBA title in another country, when Ward had the crooked Jack Reiss

Kessler fought 3 contenders in their home countries: Calzaghe in Wales, Mundine in Australia and Ward in the US.

Actually you're wrong with regards to how many times Andre Ward has fought outside of his home state since his pro debut, it's 7 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Ward.

I know the other stuff already, what's your point. Froch, as much as I'm a fan, will be another name on Ward's resume come the end of the year - joining Kessler and Abraham.

So Kessler has fought 3 times outside of Denmark out of his 46 fight career, Great stuff.

You haven't mentioned much of Lucian Bute?

[Russian Crushin]

BTW Bute did not struggle with andrade

He gassed in the last round but completely outboxed Andrade

[Discipline]

Wladimir Klitschko's first fight out of Germany was his 27 fight - and that was against some unknown dude in Budapest. What's your point?

[nomadman]

I wonder if the Son of Showtime will be fighting in his living room for the final. I hear his mother and his father are on the short list for judges the final.

Ward said he wanted things to be fair and impartial for the finals. They're fighting in his neighbour's backyard with his cousin and highschool teacher as judges. And he's promised Froch that the ref will only let him get away with three headbutts before giving him a stern talking to.

[crold1]

Ward won his tourney fights because he was, in the ring, leaps and bounds better than his foes those nights. What, if he fought Green on the road, Green might have won a round? If he fought Kessler on the road, Mikkel wouldn't have been utterly clueless inside all night? Kessler magically learns to throw an uppercut at a charge on home turf?

The final should be on neutral turf between England and Oakland somewhere so fans of each can get to the spot. New York or AC is perfect. But the next fight ward wins with the deciding factor being it was in Cali will be the first. There ain't any Ottke-Reid garbage on his ledger.

That said, Froch is a giant bad ass for traveling the way he does. Love a Road Warrior.

[Russian Crushin]

Actually you're wrong with regards to how many times Andre Ward has fought outside of his home state since his pro debut, it's 7 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Ward.

I know the other stuff already, what's your point. Froch, as much as I'm a fan, will be another name on Ward's resume come the end of the year - joining Kessler and Abraham.

So Kessler has fought 3 times outside of Denmark out of his 46 fight career, Great stuff.

You haven't mentioned much of Lucian Bute?

Cmon fighting Bums away when you first debut doesnt compare to fighting championship fighters at the top level away

[The_Golden_Goy]

I think at this point Ward is a little over-rated, but has shown he has more about him than Dirrell. There is somewhat of a Ward hypertrain on the go at the moment and its hard not to appreciate someone with that talent doing so well, but lets get it in perspective, Ward will never have fought someone in the same class as Froch and the same could arguably be said for Froch

This is the stiffest test for both

[The Hammer]

Actually you're wrong with regards to how many times Andre Ward has fought outside of his home state since his pro debut, it's 7 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Ward.

Ward has never fought a CONTENDER outside California.

Do you understand the difference between a contender and a clubfighter?

I know the other stuff already, what's your point. Froch, as much as I'm a fan, will be another name on Ward's resume come the end of the year - joining Kessler and Abraham.

So Kessler has fought 3 times outside of Denmark out of his 46 fight career, Great stuff.

Three fights against top CONTENDERS.

I can't believe you're too ****** to understand the difference.

[nomadman]

I think at this point Ward is a little over-rated, but has shown he has more about him than Dirrell. There is somewhat of a Ward hypertrain on the go at the moment and its hard not to appreciate someone with that talent doing so well, but lets get it in perspective, Ward will never have fought someone in the same class as Froch and the same could arguably be said for Froch

This is the stiffest test for both

Huh? Kessler?