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  • Pinoy4ever
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    #21
    good for him can't wait

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    • theplayerpimp
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      #22
      Originally posted by McFearless
      i hate this, especially since Martinez is willing to fight whoever. It just sucks that HBO took this stance with Martinez when they have/had other fighters *cough*berto*cough* fighting nobodies.. I guess there's a glimmer of hope since they rejected Paul Williams original comeback fight, against kirklands daddy i think it was...
      Thats martinez own fault he lost his tittle he could of fought zbik with out hbo but martinez is chasing the money. People need to stop hating and saying it was suliman who wrongfully striped martinez to give jr the tittle when that wasnt the case. And i agree they should put mismatches on hbo as lomg as they are consitent with every one.

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      • ELPERRO
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        #23
        Originally posted by Jago1986
        If Sulaiman was dead,Chavez,Jr wouldn't have a chance to be WBC middleweight champ. Also Canelo would not be WBC Champ. Both would be CHUMPS right now,but Sulaiman is as corrupt as Mexico.
        IF Sulaiman didn't....His son would of.....

        Originally posted by _original_
        People need to stop giving credit to Oscar because he didn't deserve to beat Sturm, he flat out got a gift that night and I was glad Hopkins put that punk down!
        True true...That was a robbery. But hurts more when you get your tittle taken from you outside of the ring and have two guys fighting for YOUR TITTLE that aren't deserving of it.

        Originally posted by theplayerpimp
        Thats martinez own fault he lost his tittle he could of fought zbik with out hbo but martinez is chasing the money. People need to stop hating and saying it was suliman who wrongfully striped martinez to give jr the tittle when that wasnt the case. And i agree they should put mismatches on hbo as lomg as they are consitent with every one.
        Business . . . HBO seen how well the Alvarez/hatton fight did. Imagine what numbers Jr is ganna do!

        Again...business. Chavez will give them ratings. They will pay martinez but just to fight CERTAIN apponents.

        HBO will only do mismatches if Alvarez, JR, the black jr, or pacquiao are at the other end of the corner.

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        • DoomCity202
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          #24
          Go Jr!

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          • vacon04
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            #25
            Originally posted by theplayerpimp
            Thats martinez own fault he lost his tittle he could of fought zbik with out hbo but martinez is chasing the money. People need to stop hating and saying it was suliman who wrongfully striped martinez to give jr the tittle when that wasnt the case. And i agree they should put mismatches on hbo as lomg as they are consitent with every one.
            I don't agree with this, yeah he lost his title but most of the times the newly crowned champion is able to do a couple of fights before having to do a mandatory defence. In his case the WBC was extremely strict and striped Martinez way too fast.

            Now that it has happened this way and that the regular WBC title was given to Zbik, if Chavez Jr gets the title he should also defend it against Martinez in his NEXT fight, not after 3 or 4 fights, because Martinez is the WBC emeritus champion. Now will that happen? I don't think so, they'll find a way to avoid Martinez and keep the belt. That's the real problem, not that he gets the championship, but that the rules always tend to be different to different fighters.

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            • theplayerpimp
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              #26
              Originally posted by vacon04
              I don't agree with this, yeah he lost his title but most of the times the newly crowned champion is able to do a couple of fights before having to do a mandatory defence. In his case the WBC was extremely strict and striped Martinez way too fast.

              Now that it has happened this way and that the regular WBC title was given to Zbik, if Chavez Jr gets the title he should also defend it against Martinez in his NEXT fight, not after 3 or 4 fights, because Martinez is the WBC emeritus champion. Now will that happen? I don't think so, they'll find a way to avoid Martinez and keep the belt. That's the real problem, not that he gets the championship, but that the rules always tend to be different to different fighters.
              They did allow martinez a voluntary defence against williams but zbik was waiting for a while for his shot. Jr and his handlers just saw a weak tittle holder and they went for it. But they had nothing to do with martinez being stripped. And the wbc didnt give jr the belt like so many claim.

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              • vacon04
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                #27
                Originally posted by theplayerpimp
                They did allow martinez a voluntary defence against williams but zbik was waiting for a while for his shot. Jr and his handlers just saw a weak tittle holder and they went for it. But they had nothing to do with martinez being stripped. And the wbc didnt give jr the belt like so many claim.
                A voluntary defence against Williams? Williams vs Martinez III? I don't think so. Zbik was already the interim champion, so the unification wasn't actually that critical for Zbik.

                Then I never said that they're giving the championship to Jr, actually they gave it to Zbik without fighting. Now if Chavez Jr wins, then he should fight Martinez in his next fight or else he'll be striped if they continue to apply the same rules. If he doesn't then he'll also be correctly striped from the belt right?

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                • theplayerpimp
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by vacon04
                  A voluntary defence against Williams? Williams vs Martinez III? I don't think so. Zbik was already the interim champion, so the unification wasn't actually that critical for Zbik.

                  Then I never said that they're giving the championship to Jr, actually they gave it to Zbik without fighting. Now if Chavez Jr wins, then he should fight Martinez in his next fight or else he'll be striped if they continue to apply the same rules. If he doesn't then he'll also be correctly striped from the belt right?
                  Martinez won his tittle from pavlik he then faced williams in the rematch which was his first voluntary defence. He was then striped when he fought dzy.
                  And if chavez wins they should give him a voluntary defence then make him face his mandatory. But who knows if it will be martinez or rubio who won an eliminator againts lemiux.

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                  • mushahadeen
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                    #29
                    any1 who hates on JR don't know s*** about boxing.

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                    • El Talegon
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                      #30
                      Jr. wins by KO this **** aint even going all 12.

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