Dirrell co-signs Bertos accusations

[Left Hook Tua]

Chalk it up to experience and I think he is better suited at this weight class. The kid is a good fighter.. The Berto fight will do wonders for his confidence as well... I see good things from him.....

1. he's fighting at staples center. his hometown. probably had a lot of friends/family there.

2. he was headlining as a hbo main event. iirc first time he was a main event on hbo. they definitely were promoting him heavily with his story and stuff.

3. it was his 1st world title shot in his career.

add to that he drops maidana. he got careless and tried to put him away. he ended up fighting maidana's fight.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

1. he's fighting at staples center. his hometown. probably had a lot of friends/family there.

2. he was headlining as a hbo main event. iirc first time he was a main event on hbo. they definitely were promoting him heavily with his story and stuff.

3. it was his 1st world title shot in his career.

add to that he drops maidana. he got careless and tried to put him away. he ended up fighting maidana's fight.

the main even was originally gonna be Chris-John and Rocky Juarez 2 but that fell thru so they made a big push to promote Victor as the headliner

[Brutal Honesty]

hey i love a lot of fighters that are brothers.

but why does it seem like 90% of the most boring fights i seen lately involve them?

i know it's just perception and i'm probably wrong but still......

last week i saw this african dude on espn run all fight long and do nothing then raise his hands as if he won and complain about being robbed.

this thread pretty much explains everything

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=440137

[Alibata]

1. he's fighting at staples center. his hometown. probably had a lot of friends/family there.

2. he was headlining as a hbo main event. iirc first time he was a main event on hbo. they definitely were promoting him heavily with his story and stuff.

3. it was his 1st world title shot in his career.

add to that he drops maidana. he got careless and tried to put him away. he ended up fighting maidana's fight.

Pressure is a biatch... handling it is what separates the men from the boys.. I think Victor has grown up from those experiences. Some of the greatest fighters we will never see because they couldn't handle the pressure outside the gym.. However, his big dreams will lead him to big fights with more knee shaking atmospheres, bigger pressure.. We have yet to see if he can handle that... Skills and talent, he is not lacking though to be a great fighter. If You ever wondered why Floyd has been such a slow starter namely against Zab and Mosley... It is pressure, but some fighters rise above it... Pac has no pressure from the start.

[Bobby No Sex]

if a black boxer of today (run, headbutt, whine, diva) loses to a non black fighter they are on the mothafawkin PEDS! git it?

[SpitBalla]

whats with these black fighters acting like putoz lately?

Zab also accused Khan of taking steroids. Which is ridiculous since he is one of the leanest boxers there is.

But these fools are out of control.

[Clegg]

Ortiz isn't any better now than he was the night he fought Maidana. Maybe a bit more mentally determined, but technique-wise he's the same guy, he still makes the same mistakes, he's very easy to hit when he gets aggressive.

He'll give some entertaining fights but I think tough brawlers will always give him problems. Other than Pac and Floyd I don't think much of 147 so maybe he'll keep the belt for a while.

[mrlopez]

he was kicking maidana's ass too. let's not pretend it was a one sided beating or something.

ortiz wouldn't be the 1st guy to get excited and blow his load too quick. which is what it seemed like to me watching the fight.

peterson he was whooping as well even though he fought a ****** game plan.


if you want to criticize ortiz , i'd say go with his boxing iq and dumb fight plans. the boy has some skills.

It wasn't one sided, u are correct, but quitting is a No-No(nothing special about that) and until he avenges his loss to Maidana, he's always gonna have that cloud hanging over his head.

Chalk it up to experience and I think he is better suited at this weight class. The kid is a good fighter.. The Berto fight will do wonders for his confidence as well... I see good things from him.....

He'll probably get better, its not like he doesn't have the skills, but its his heart that I and everyone will question for a long time......1 fight won't give you that answer.

[Left Hook Tua]

Ortiz isn't any better now than he was the night he fought Maidana. Maybe a bit more mentally determined, but technique-wise he's the same guy, he still makes the same mistakes, he's very easy to hit when he gets aggressive.

He'll give some entertaining fights but I think tough brawlers will always give him problems. Other than Pac and Floyd I don't think much of 147 so maybe he'll keep the belt for a while.

he's like a bigger , stronger cotto then.

[Left Hook Tua]

It wasn't one sided, u are correct, but quitting is a No-No(nothing special about that) and until he avenges his loss to Maidana, he's always gonna have that cloud hanging over his head.

duran quit once.

a lot of fighters quit too just not like victor did.

most quit pretending they can't see or playing dumb when the refs ask them questions or telling their corner something to make them throw the towel.