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Who do you rank higher as an ATG Pernell Whitaker or Bernard Hopkins?

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  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    Wow. Just wow.
    20 defenzes bro! he beat everyone ever at middleweight! Whitaker crackhead!!

    You really can't make these polls before at least a month has passed after a current fighter has fought. People just ride the wave of whatever just happened.

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    • Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
      20 defenzes bro! he beat everyone ever at middleweight! Whitaker crackhead!!

      You really can't make these polls before at least a month has passed after a current fighter has fought. People just ride the wave of whatever just happened.

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      • Originally posted by NinjaMan! View Post
        Hopkins by accomplishments.
        Opposition >>>>> Accomplishments.


        Accomplishments, defined in these terms, are essentially trivia, decorative touches to a career - often, they're as impressive as they sound, but just as often not. Opposition can make Accomplishments Greater.


        So, to the people using the 'Accomplishments' argument, don't - quality of Opposition is the primary key factor in judging a prizefighter's CV.

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        • The Executioner.

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          • It's Whitaker, BTW. You have to get things crazy twisted in order to give it to Hopkins.

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            • Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
              Sweet Pea has the better resume, Hopkins has the better accomplishments. I can't really see how some one can say Sweet Pea by landslide, or Hopkins my a country mile, other than to look like a know it all historian and impress some one.

              In this thread, Hopkins sounds like he's some kind of bum who has done nothing
              green!!!!!

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              • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                This poll is a joke to say the least. How Hopkins has even 10 votes is a mystery.
                true...Hop is a bum compared to Pea...smh

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                • Sweet Pea all the way he's faced much better opposition.

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                  • Whitaker beat a guy you could argue is top 20-25 (JCC) another guy you could argue is top 50-60 (Nelson). His other wins rival Hopkins' run at Middleweight. Beating Vasquez at 154, beating Mayweather coming up. McGirt at WW.

                    His close loss against Oscar is much more impressive than any of Hopkins' close losses (Taylor, Calzaghe) He beat the best two guys he ever faced and Hopkins didn't. That could end the argument right there...

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