Calzaghe vs Hopkins looking back

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

114-113 Hopkins is what I scored it. Did anyone else get that exact score for Hops?

[edgarg]

judges are notoriously incompetent and corrupt. we have cameras that show us every angle of the ring and the judges don't. like i said in my previous post that you obviously ignored, hopkins got tired and that's the only reason people think calzaghe won. they pretend like the first 8 rounds didn't even happen. he dominated most of the fight but he got tired and bought time after getting low blowed therefore calzaghe wins 7 rounds? makes no sense if you are trying to be an unbiased judge. why would a guy get credit for throwing and missing punches? a few misses? haha more like a few lands. throwing 100 punches(throwing punches not an actual scoring criteria) and not landing anything clean is a bad thing and gives hopkins credit for defense(an actual scoring criteria) but somehow you twist that into a good thing for calzaghe. you don't know boxing and either do people who score it for calzaghe based on made up judging criteria.

No I didn't ignore it, I discarded it. Calzaghe made a fool of him and he couldn't match anything Calzaghe was doing, so he did his usual "stink out the house" act.

I've NEVER seen Hopkins in a fight I/ve enjoyed and I've seen literally hundreds and hundreds of fights, including many of Hopkins. The guy was completely unknown except to the analysts and announcers until near the end of his middles term. I recall Max Kellerman, about 8-9 years ago in talking about an aspiring middleweight, said "well he'll have to go through Bernard Hopkins, he's the champion". The other analyst or announcer (I can't remember the names,) said "who" ...and then "Oh yet, the forgotten fighter".........

[daggum]

114-113 Hopkins is what I scored it. Did anyone else get that exact score for Hops?

that's the absolute worst it could be for hopkins. 115-112 is probably more accurate since hopkins outlanded calzaghe by a wide margin in 7 rounds. they landed about the same in round 4 but i gave it to hopkins because he buckled calzaghe's legs and calzaghe turned his back on hopkins to avoid further punishment. why no outrage over that? hopkins gets killed for taking time to recover after getting hit with an illegal blow. calzaghe gets a free pass for taking time to recover after hopkins hit him with a legal blow(did it twice btw). nitpicking hypocrite fans!

[The Gambler1981]

114-113 Hopkins is what I scored it. Did anyone else get that exact score for Hops?

I remember scoring it for Hopkins but I don't remember the score and I don't care to really watch that fight closely against so I just accept the loss.

It is a tough fight to score though, if you can deal with and accept how Calzaghe "punches" then he will seem like the winner because he did more work, if you value good work then Hopkins will probably win although at some points he wasn't doing a lot so that is why I think people in general favor Calzaghe.

It was a close enough fight that I just accept what the judges saw though.

[daggum]

No I didn't ignore it, I discarded it. Calzaghe made a fool of him and he couldn't match anything Calzaghe was doing, so he did his usual "stink out the house" act.

I've NEVER seen Hopkins in a fight I/ve enjoyed and I've seen literally hundreds and hundreds of fights, including many of Hopkins. The guy was completely unknown except to the analysts and announcers until near the end of his middles term. I recall Max Kellerman, about 8-9 years ago in talking about an aspiring middleweight, said "well he'll have to go through Bernard Hopkins, he's the champion". The other analyst or announcer (I can't remember the names,) said "who" ...and then "Oh yet, the forgotten fighter".........

just like you discarded how to score a boxing match when you watched calzaghe-hopkins. you are right hopkins couldn't match the 100 punches calzaghe threw per round. he only need to throw a third of the punches calzaghe threw and he still outlanded him in the majority of the rounds. he did more with less. what disgrace.

[Klitschko2011]

I scored it 116-111 for Calzaghe.

Hopkins is Calzaghe's bitch.

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[edgarg]

Please even Old Hopkins today would have school'd average Kessler when Calzaghe fought him and slow Lacey when Calzaghe fought him. It is fair to say Hopkins would have been him in his prime because he's not as fast as he was in his physcial prime and thats the only reason the fight was even close because of Joe's hand speed.

Until Calzaghe beat both the unbeaten Kessler and the unbeaten Lacy so easily, and with such skill, they were regarded as the favourites. Lacy in particular, being of course an American, was regarded as unbeatable. It was only AFTER the fights were Kessler and Lacy regarded as "ordinary".

The way Calzaghe changed and speeded up his game after the first 4 very tough rds with Kessler, showed him to be a great fighter. After that he fought rings around him, MADE him look "ordinary". YET, Kessler won a title again almost immediately afterwards..........

[The Gambler1981]

Most people do value work rate and coming forward above all else when it comes to scoring as opposed to effective clean punching.

It is pretty much why I don't listen to what people have to say about scoring fights~ nor desire to get into arguments about scoring fights

[daggum]

Until Calzaghe beat both the unbeaten Kessler and the unbeaten Lacy so easily, and with such skill, they were regarded as the favourites. Lacy in particular, being of course an American, was regarded as unbeatable. It was only AFTER the fights were Kessler and Lacy regarded as "ordinary".

The way Calzaghe changed and speeded up his game after the first 4 very tough rds with Kessler, showed him to be a great fighter. After that he fought rings around him, MADE him look "ordinary". YET, Kessler won a title again almost immediately afterwards..........

making up things again? not surprised. lacy was a very slight favorite over calzaghe and he wasn't seen as unbeatable to anyone who ever saw him fight. he had a debatable decision over omar sheika and looked dreadful against syd vanderpool, donnell wiggins, and rubin williams before scoring stoppages. kessler wasn't a favorite over calzaghe at all. calzaghe was almost a 2 to 1 favorite.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Its amazing how Edgard hates on Floyd yet praises Calzaghe. Immnot trying to flame I just think its funny.