Calzaghe vs Hopkins looking back

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There are no "gifts" in close fights.

I think their is. If it's really that close I think it's kinda a gift to give it to either fighter since it's that close but then again Draw's suck. I had Hopkins winning though but even if he won, 50% of the world would have thought he got a gift too.

btw, I think their's a huge difference between robberies and gifts. Definitely not a robbery but I don't think Joe won either.

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Hopkins looked very uncomfortable against Calzaghe. He was clearly gassed and looking for 'outs' at every opportunity. The diving, the acting, the long recovery time he managed to con the ref into giving. I think any way you look at it, that was an ugly fight to watch, Hopkins killed it, but JC should get some credit for making Bhop resort to those kind of tactics. A decent win for Calzaghe but still a horrible fight to watch.

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lets go way back and look at the calzaghe-hopkins fight.....................






yep he's still swatting at air and he was still outboxed and outlanded for the majority of the fight. oh wait hopkins got tired in the last couple rounds therefore he retroactively loses the first half of the fight that he dominated. go back and change your scorecards folks because he got tired! also go back and change the bika-calzaghe fight to a bika win because calzaghe got tired and held the entire fight. full credit for fooling the judges with ineffective work. like calzaghe said he refuses to lose!

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Looking back on that fight what do you think it means to Calzaghes legacy? at the time everyone thought Hopkins was past it,but performances since then would make you think again.

I've picked holes in Calzaghes resume as much as anyone but this might go down as a great victory.

Would the result have been much different if it happened say 8 years ago?

It doesn't mean much to Calzaghe's legacy. Hopkins was only 1 fight. Legacy is your whole career. Doesn't matter what Bernard does he's still Calzaghe's only decent win no matter what.

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Looking back on that fight what do you think it means to Calzaghes legacy? at the time everyone thought Hopkins was past it,but performances since then would make you think again.

I've picked holes in Calzaghes resume as much as anyone but this might go down as a great victory.

Would the result have been much different if it happened say 8 years ago?

8 years ago Hopkins, strangely enough, was a lot worse than he seems to be now. Calzaghe was also a lot better then, didn't have his bad hands so much, would have killed him, too smart, too quick to adapt, and far too fast. It was no accident that Hopkins kept faking low blows and messing around trying to get a breather, Calzaghe was pushing him well over his limit.

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lets go way back and look at the calzaghe-hopkins fight.....................






yep he's still swatting at air and he was still outboxed and outlanded for the majority of the fight. oh wait hopkins got tired in the last couple rounds therefore he retroactively loses the first half of the fight that he dominated. go back and change your scorecards folks because he got tired! also go back and change the bika-calzaghe fight to a bika win because calzaghe got tired and held the entire fight. full credit for fooling the judges with ineffective work! like calzaghe said he refuses to lose.

You're just talking rambling nonsense and all who read it know it. yes there were times when he hit only air, but when a fighter punches over 100 punches in a round, he can afford a few misses. You guys were very selective in your reproduced pictures to show almost the only time when Calzaghe missed al of a 4 punch combination. He was pressuring Hopkins more than he could bear. When did you ever see Hopkins needing to back aganst the ropes ducking and moving his head like a pendulum. It looked to me like desperation, along with the phony acting and fake low blows looking to grab a breath of air.

The judges may differ, they nearly always do, as each sees only one side of the fight, but theiy're not ******. And WE see only ONE side of the fight too.

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You're just talking rambling nonsense and all who read it know it. yes there were times when he hit only air, but when a fighter punches over 100 punches in a round, he can afford a few misses. You guys were very selective in your reproduced pictures to show almost the only time when Calzaghe missed al of a 4 punch combination. He was pressuring Hopkins more than he could bear. When did you ever see Hopkins needing to back aganst the ropes ducking and moving his head like a pendulum. It looked to me like desperation, along with the phony acting and fake low blows looking to grab a breath of air.
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The judges may differ, they nearly always do, as each sees only one side of the fight, but theiy're not ******. And WE see only ONE side of the fight too.

judges are notoriously incompetent and corrupt. we have cameras that show us every angle of the ring and the judges don't. like i said in my previous post that you obviously ignored, hopkins got tired and that's the only reason people think calzaghe won. they pretend like the first 8 rounds didn't even happen. he dominated most of the fight but he got tired and bought time after getting low blowed therefore calzaghe wins 7 rounds? makes no sense if you are trying to be an unbiased judge. why would a guy get credit for throwing and missing punches? a few misses? haha more like a few lands. throwing 100 punches(throwing punches not an actual scoring criteria) and not landing anything clean is a bad thing and gives hopkins credit for defense(an actual scoring criteria) but somehow you twist that into a good thing for calzaghe. you don't know boxing and either do people who score it for calzaghe based on made up judging criteria.

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Hopkins looked very uncomfortable against Calzaghe. He was clearly gassed and looking for 'outs' at every opportunity. The diving, the acting, the long recovery time he managed to con the ref into giving. I think any way you look at it, that was an ugly fight to watch, Hopkins killed it, but JC should get some credit for making Bhop resort to those kind of tactics. A decent win for Calzaghe but still a horrible fight to watch.

This is the most truthful and factual statement on this page. Calzaghe made a fool of Hopkins and Hopkins was really annoyed at being shown up, since he always represents himself as really "tough" a "Philly throwback" . My heavens if Hopkins had been fighting in the grat days of Philadelphia boxing, he'd have been thrown back certainly as not yet good enough to bother with.

It's all talk, Hopkins stinks out almost every fight I've seen him in and that's quite a few.

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^Those are punch combinations? lmao, those misses show joes lack of technique, and illegal punching with inner glove, those slaps which he used shouldn't register on compubox.

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^Those are punch combinations? lmao, those misses show joes lack of technique, and illegal punching with inner glove, those slaps which he used shouldn't register on compubox.

they aren't even legal punches and they aren't even landing. it's pretty funny calzaghe landed his best punches when he threw legal straight punches but he was so desperate that he had to resort to throwing a sissy fit to fool the judges.