New victor ortiz interview talks mayweather

[Dynamite Kid]

Judah has never been smaller than Floyd.

Not debating that either way, just that there are number of people who feel 140 is his optimum weight, that he was never really a true 147 pounder.

[IMDAZED]

Not debating that either way, just that there are number of people who feel 140 is his optimum weight, that he was never really a true 147 pounder.

Yes, there are a # of people who have certain opinions but if that's not your argument then there's no point in bringing it up. Optimum weight doesn't equal smaller man. Judah was in no way smaller than a Mayweather who had all of one fight at 147 when they met.

[The Big Dunn]

Judah lost to Baldy before! Floyd fought him, that's the point.

Mosley hadn't been in competitive action, actually fighting, and he was almost 40, so......

I didn't demand it, infact you can check my posts, I told everyone that he was done, that he'd been done since the Cotto fight, that the Margo win was a smoke screen cause they referee allowed him to hold, and the opponents style cooperated with him, that if he fights Mayweather, it will be a one sided fight.





All I'm saying is, there are people out there who have claimed that Judah never really filled into the 147lbs division, that actually, he was a lot more comfortable as a 140 pounder.

34 is 34, IE, a past prime DLH, and his last 3 fights, were a win over a not so good to begin with Mayorga, a KO loss to B Hop, and a disputed decision to Sturm.

Hatton walked around at that weight cause he was a gluten, not because he was a big guy naturally, who boiled down to 140. Anyone you speak to, will tell you 147 was not Hatton's optimum weight.

What has Manny got to do with this?

All I'm saying, is based on the fact Mayweather refuses to submit to the testing procedures other fighters are regularly submitting to, and fighting under, that he retired when the 147lbs was at its peak, didn't fight the likes of Williams, Cotto, Margarito when they were prime players in the division, but has fought older guys like Shane, DLH, and smaller guys like Marquez, Hatton, and Judah coming off a loss, none of that leads me to believe he would fight the likes of Amir Khan, Ortiz. At a push, Floyd might fight Martinez, Berto, but even that's a stretch.

So floyd fought both. Baldo who was bigger and judha who was better. How can you fault him.

didn't fight the likes of Williams, Cotto, Margarito when they were prime players in the division

When floyd beat baldo and judah, cotto nor williams were prime players at 147. Margarito was 1 fight removed from losing to Daniel Santos and was the WBO champ.

Hatton came up to face the champ. Floyd did the same thing with Castillo and Gatti. Hatton didn't lose because he was smaller, ehe lost because floyd is bettr than him. And shane was 38, but he just beat MArgarito (who according to your post) was a "prime player", and was the top ww in the world. A guy many, maybe not you, had accussed floyd of ducking and wnated him to fight.

I just think you left out some key points.

[Ko King 212]

Judah lost to Baldy before! Floyd fought him, that's the point.

Mosley hadn't been in competitive action, actually fighting, and he was almost 40, so......

I didn't demand it, infact you can check my posts, I told everyone that he was done, that he'd been done since the Cotto fight, that the Margo win was a smoke screen cause they referee allowed him to hold, and the opponents style cooperated with him, that if he fights Mayweather, it will be a one sided fight.





All I'm saying is, there are people out there who have claimed that Judah never really filled into the 147lbs division, that actually, he was a lot more comfortable as a 140 pounder. You didnt answer my question. What weight did floyd start at. also Zab and floyd are the same f^cking size.

34 is 34, IE, a past prime DLH, and his last 3 fights, were a win over a not so good to begin with Mayorga, a KO loss to B Hop, and a disputed decision to Sturm.

Hatton walked around at that weight cause he was a gluten, not because he was a big guy naturally, who boiled down to 140. Anyone you speak to, will tell you 147 was not Hatton's optimum weight. So its better for hatton coming down from 180 to 140 then it is just coming down to 147. Also is floyd that much bigger then hatton

What has Manny got to do with this? Because if you going to call out floyd for it you better call him out for it

All I'm saying, is based on the fact Mayweather refuses to submit to the testing procedures other fighters are regularly submitting to So you upset that he wants better testing. I mean it is the only thing he ask for.

and fighting under, that he retired when the 147lbs was at its peak, didn't fight the likes of Williams, Cotto, Margarito when they were prime players in the division, but has fought older guys like Shane, DLH, and smaller guys like Marquez, Hatton, and Judah coming off a loss So you saying shane knocking resto jr the f^ck out didnt mean anything. did he or did he not have the belts?

none of that leads me to believe he would fight the likes of Amir Khan, Ortiz You say this but then you say this

At a push, Floyd might fight Martinez, Berto, but even that's a stretch.

Mayweather would probably beat Ortiz and Khan in a lot of

Homie you all over the place. You are a straight up hater. thanks for the back and forth tho.

[IMDAZED]

So floyd fought both. Baldo who was bigger and judha who was better. How can you fault him.

didn't fight the likes of Williams, Cotto, Margarito when they were prime players in the division

When floyd beat baldo and judah, cotto nor williams were prime players at 147. Margarito was 1 fight removed from losing to Daniel Santos and was the WBO champ.

Hatton came up to face the champ. Floyd did the same thing with Castillo and Gatti. Hatton didn't lose because he was smaller, ehe lost because floyd is bettr than him. And shane was 38, but he just beat MArgarito (who according to your post) was a "prime player", and was the top ww in the world. A guy many, maybe not you, had accussed floyd of ducking and wnated him to fight.

I just think you left out some key points.

I used to slam the **** out of Floyd when he chose to fight Baldomir. Now I look back at those days with fond memories. I never knew the pound for pound throne would become the **** show that it is today.

[DE100]

Did he say he beat one of the best P4P of all time!? lol

Victor is coming off a little arrogant, I love the way he handled his business against Berto, and had that fire in his eye from the moment he was walking toward the ring, but humility should still be driving him, arrogance brings a bad vibe to your style and people will be jumping and laughing at you again the moment you get caught and quit in the middle of the ring again. Stay humble Victor, and continue being successful

He did air quotes when he said that. He's being sarcastic, about either Berto or someone saying that.

[The Big Dunn]

I used to slam the **** out of Floyd when he chose to fight Baldomir. Now I look back at those days with fond memories. I never knew the pound for pound throne would become the **** show that it is today.

But floyd only fought Baldo because he upset Judah. The deal was in place before the Baldo Zab fight even started. Had Zab handled his business as a professional (excuse me I have to stop typing to laugh) there would be no Baldo fight.

Haters leave that little point out all the time.

[P.K]

sounds like you're descriibing manny to be honest..floyd fights fighters coming off of wins and when they are at their best

Yes JMM came off a win.
Yes Hatton did.
Yes Mosely did.

Any issues?

147.
147.
1 YEAR 3 MONTHS LAY OFF.

[IMDAZED]

But floyd only fought Baldo because he upset Judah. The deal was in place before the Baldo Zab fight even started. Had Zab handled his business as a professional (excuse me I have to stop typing to laugh) there would be no Baldo fight.

Haters leave that little point out all the time.

I hear what you're saying Dunn but...

Floyd argued that Baldomir's winw as a fluke, that he was a bum, that Zab wasn't 100% and thus fighting Zab made sense.

Well then...why fight Baldomir later? Instead of Margarito who, at the time, was a far bigger threat? In retrospect, the Margarito fight was never going to happen due to the Top Rank conflict. Of course, I didn't realize that then.

Anyway, prior to his retirement, Floyd's resume at 147 was mediocre. But I think the win over Shane solidifies it quite nicely.

[P.K]

I hear what you're saying Dunn but...

Floyd argued that Baldomir's winw as a fluke, that he was a bum, that Zab wasn't 100% and thus fighting Zab made sense.

Well then...why fight Baldomir later? Instead of Margarito who, at the time, was a far bigger threat? In retrospect, the Margarito fight was never going to happen due to the Top Rank conflict. Of course, I didn't realize that then.

Anyway, prior to his retirement, Floyd's resume at 147 was mediocre. But I think the win over Shane solidifies it quite nicely.

Sorry but Judah already been beat before as well.