Truth about B HOP....

[Mr. Fantastic]

I already schooled you in that debate lets not go back in time.

The only thing you have ever proven me wrong is the Pascal/Hopkins first fight thread. That's about it.

[ИATAS]

Because like I said, you guys are taking it to the maximum like *******/*****/Cotto level nuthugging. You guys are making it seem like his other wins are god's gifts to man when it really isn't all that what you guys make it to be.

not true man, there really aren't that many true hopkins fans on this site, like a dozen. Obviously, after a historic win there is going to be a ton of praise, from his fans and from boxing fans in general. Then, for some odd reason a lot of people started making weird threads somehow bashing pacquiao and/or mayweather in light of hopkins win and people started in turn trashing on hopkins. That's where I came in. On top of that you had a lot of race threads made as well which was/is even more pathetic.

I don't get all the comparing one guy's legacy to another and how some people can be jealous/threatened of that, doesn't make any sense to me.

there were a few overboard threads like "hopkins is ATG!" or whatever, I didn't partake in any of those because I knew those were just reactionary knee-jerk reactions to a great historic victory. That happens after any great fight though on NSB.

[Sin City]

yeah I guess glen johnson and roy jones were little turds when hopkins fought then. And all the other MW's he fought like echols, segundo mercado, allen, holmes, joppy, eastman, taylor, jackson, etc. were all tiny men too

Ahh the great Echols, Eastman, Allen, Mercado and Joppy. Who all won fights against Trinidad, Bute, Abraham, Mundine and Miranda... oh, wait. nvm..

Well he lost to Taylor and Jones when it was important so... not sure what you are getting at there.

Glen Johnson was legit.

Again, I never said he was garbage.. but he's not great. He's aaight..
Not bad saying Tarver, Johnson and Pascal are your biggest wins. Those are 3 solid.


edit: I'd toss Trinidad in there as well.. although smaller, it wasn't the size the kicked his ass. He would've lost to Hop either way.

[Mr. Fantastic]

not true man, there really aren't that many true hopkins fans on this site, like a dozen. Obviously, after a historic win there is going to be a ton of praise, from his fans and from boxing fans in general. Then, for some odd reason a lot of people starting making weird threads somehow bashing pacquiao and/or mayweather in light of hopkins win and people started in turn trashing on hopkins. That's where I came in. On top of that you had a lot of race threads made as well which was/is even more pathetic.

I don't get all the comparing one guy's legacy to another and how some people can be jealous/threatened of that, doesn't make any sense to me.

I'm not jealous or threatened one bit. I understand the praise but when you start throwing the word "legend" around and Hopkins, the first thing that comes to my mind is most of his big wins. Well if people get racial with me, you expect me to just sit down and cross my arms, say nothing? Hell no!

Hope you understand where I'm coming from.

[ИATAS]

Ahh the great Echols, Eastman, Allen, Mercado and Joppy. Who all won fights against Trinidad, Bute, Abraham, Mundine and Miranda... oh, wait. nvm..

None of those guys I listed fought ANY of those guys you mentioned besides Tito fighting Joppy when Bhop fought then. If you're going to bring up fighters who are shot and those losses against them I see your agenda...

Well he lost to Taylor and Jones when it was important so... not sure what you are getting at there.

Many people don't believe he lost to taylor by that time he was 40 years old. The fact he was competitive with jones at that stage in his career should say something

Glen Johnson was legit.

Again, I never said he was garbage.. but he's not great. He's aaight..
Not bad saying Tarver, Johnson and Pascal are your biggest wins. Those are 3 solid.

So you're telling me hopkins isn't an all time great? riiiiiiiiight

[ИATAS]

I'm not jealous or threatened one bit. I understand the praise but when you start throwing the word "legend" around and Hopkins, the first thing that comes to my mind is most of his big wins. Well if people get racial with me, you expect me to just sit down and cross my arms, say nothing? Hell no!

Hope you understand where I'm coming from.

I wasn't talking about you specifically, I am just speaking on the state of the forum. There were people making a lot of racist threads. There were people attacking hopkins instead of giving him props.

What defines legend? I've seen countless articles call hopkins a legend, the HBO crew, the Showtime crew, Ring Magazine, Yahoo, ESPN, they've all called him a legend. I guess it depends on how you definite it but he's done some legendary things, quite clearly. 20 MW title defenses going undefeated for 12 years - legendary. Moving up to LHW at age 41 and fighting the Man and winning - legendary. Winning a worldchampionship at 46 - legendary.

If you guys aren't impressed with Hopkins' career, then I don't know what impresses you. There are really no one in boxing right now that have accomplishment more, except probably Pacquiao and one or two other guys.

[djtmal]

It's funny how you guys are quick to label someone a "hater" cause it's something you don't agree with.

I NEVER EVER said he wasn't great. I gave him props for his AMAZING WIN. I gave him props for beating Pascal who was the #1 guy AND was in the SAME WEIGHT DIVISION as Hopkins.

BUT you guys are the ones taking it to the maximum when it comes to nuthugging. Great win but you guys make it seem like Hopkins can't do NO WRONG.

hopkins ballickers are the worst people on earth...give the dude credit for a win and they still want to cry like *****es....everybody knows his best wins came against fighters that were two divisions smaller than him...mention the losses to calzaghe, taylor, jones, etc. and its always a robbery, or some lame excuse....

[Walt Liquor]

Ahh the great Echols, Eastman, Allen, Mercado and Joppy. Who all won fights against Trinidad, Bute, Abraham, Mundine and Miranda... oh, wait. nvm.. Well he lost to Taylor and Jones when it was important so... not sure what you are getting at there.

Glen Johnson was legit.

Again, I never said he was garbage.. but he's not great. He's aaight..
Not bad saying Tarver, Johnson and Pascal are your biggest wins. Those are 3 solid.


edit: I'd toss Trinidad in there as well.. although smaller, it wasn't the size the kicked his ass. He would've lost to Hop either way.

Bernard Hopkins is alright......

chich needs to relax with all that bcuz your arguments are terrible. fighting smaller dudes his whole career... he fought just as many bigger guys as smaller guys.

winky, tito, pavlik

johnson, tarver, pascal, roy jones

[Walt Liquor]

hopkins ballickers are the worst people on earth...give the dude credit for a win and they still want to cry like *****es....everybody knows his best wins came against fighters that were two divisions smaller than him...mention the losses to calzaghe, taylor, jones, etc. and its always a robbery, or some lame excuse....

ignorance as usual, disproven over and over


bhop is either the greatest or second greatest active boxer right now. deal with it you crybaby (i don't consider the zombie roy jones to be active)

[Walt Liquor]

I'm not jealous or threatened one bit. I understand the praise but when you start throwing the word "legend" around and Hopkins, the first thing that comes to my mind is most of his big wins. Well if people get racial with me, you expect me to just sit down and cross my arms, say nothing? Hell no!

Hope you understand where I'm coming from.

start throwing the word legend and hopkins together and so what? is archie moore not a legend? is his mw defense record at least not a legend of modern times? how about his holding 3 legit championships. how about winning a legit title at 46 yrs old.

that's not stuff legends are made of???????????