how can hopkins be better than calzaghe?

[Joeyzagz]

Are you kidding me? Robert Allen was actually a top 10 ranked middleweight ALL 3 TIMES B-Hop fought him. Eastman was the #1 challenger at middleweight and Joppy was ranked too.

You don't know *****. Whereas Calzaghe only fought 5 ranked fighters in 21 DEFENSES! LMAO!!!

Who have those fighters beaten, you ******ed ******?

[daggum]

To be fair to BH he has a better resume, but i feel BH would have benefitted so much if he had of beat JC, and that has let people say JC is better.

You cant use BHs age against JC, as you cant only count wins but not take into consideration losses as well, and use age as an excuse.

Its the whole career that counts and of course losses is part of the equation. BH being younger wouldnt have neccesarily helped BH that much, as i think it was just JCs style in general that would cause BH problems. If you trying messing JC about and make it ragged, JC would get into a dog fight if neccesary and make it look horrible like BH does.

JC didnt load up on his punches and threw 1000s of punches, that BH couldnt time.

calzaghe couldn't land them. hopkins just landed 1 clean shot then reset. aka boxing.

[$Bullsfam$]

Who have those fighters beaten, you ******ed ******?

HAHAHAHAH MAD BECAUSE YOUR MAN IS EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!! Trying to make up lies because YOU MAD! hahahahaha

Why don't you ask yourself that question. Who the **** did anybody Calzaghe ever beat during his 21 defenses ever beat? LMAO Why the **** did some unranked nobody like Mario Viet fight Calzaghe TWICE during his reign never being ranked either time? LMAO

How come Calzaghe went 5 years out of his prime in those 21 defenses without fighting a ranked opponent? LMAO!

[C.J.Mak]

I like Calzaghe and am a fan, while he was active he had the chance to achieve greater things even though he had achieved alot as a fighter before he retired.

Calzaghe

*21 successfull Super Middleweight title defences, the only two fighters in history that have more than Calzaghe are Dariusz Michalczewski with 23 defenses at Light Heavyweight and all time great Heavyweight Joe Louis with 25 defenses

*Undisputed Super Middleweight Champ

*Only Ring Magazine/Linear Super-Middleweight Champ since the Division started

*Ring Magazine/Linear Light Heavyweight Champ at the the same time as holding the Super Middleweight Titles

*Retiring undefeated and untied,the first fight to do this since Rocky Marciano

That's where it end's for Calzaghe though and that's my point.

Bernard Hopkins

*20 Successfull Middleweight Title defences, Tied With Larry Holmes 20 Heavyweight title Defences,the only three fighters in history that have more than Hopkins are Joe Calzaghe with 21 Defences at Super Middleweight,Dariusz Michalczewski with 23 defenses at Light Heavyweight and all time great Heavyweight Joe Louis with 25 defenses

*Fist fighter to retain the Undisputed Title whilst holding all four major belts WBC/WBA/WBO/IBF & Ring Magzaine

*Oldest Middleweight Champ

*2 x Ring Magzaine/Linear Light Heavyweight Champ

*Oldest fighter in the sports history to win a major title at the age of 46 winning the WBC Light Heavyweight title surpassing the previous record held by George Foreman winning the WBA & IBF Heavyweight titles at age 45

B-Hop is a phenomenon and his career isn't over yet,he has already achieved alot and still continues to amaze, his resume and achievement's just keep getting better and there could be so much more to come as his career continues, right now it wouldn't surprise me if B-Hop becomes a champion again at 50.

[Joeyzagz]

HAHAHAHAH MAD BECAUSE YOUR MAN IS EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!! Trying to make up lies because YOU MAD! hahahahaha

You didnt answer my question.

Joppy, Eastman and Robert Allen havent beaten one decent fighter between them. THey all got Kod down the road by lesser fighters.

Bhop hid at 160 because he knew Roy, Joe, and TOney would tap that ass. He even admitted on Saturday that he was waiting for everyone else to die out before moving to his natural weight of LHW. He is crafty, Ill give you that, but far from great.

[Twako]

bhop's resume may be better than calzaghe, but head to head i think joe beats him 8 times out of 10.

actually, bhop win last saturday only made joe's resume shine even better. you can't say now bhop was shot to hell when they fought. and jean pascal's resume is nothing to write home about either.

[Walt Liquor]

You didnt answer my question.

Joppy, Eastman and Robert Allen havent beaten one decent fighter between them. THey all got Kod down the road by lesser fighters.

Bhop hid at 160 because he knew Roy, Joe, and TOney would tap that ass. He even admitted on Saturday that he was waiting for everyone else to die out before moving to his natural weight of LHW. He is crafty, Ill give you that, but far from great.

ooooookkkkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyyyyy.

bernard hopkins is a great fighter by any sort of measure. lulz at bernard hiding at 160 but joe didn't hide at 168.

[Haglerwins]

Some of you should watch some old Joe fights where he's cheating his ass off. Rabbit punching fighters to death flurrying like a moron and not getting dq'd. If Eubank didn't credit him as a hard puncher I wouldn't believe the dude brought anything to the table other than his quirky volume throwing.

[jermainerambo]

Now, now, now lets look at all the "great" title defenses Mr. Calzaghe had...

1998: Joes ranked #2.
Fought: Branko Sobot(unranked), Juan Ferreyra(unranked)

1999: Joes ranked #2
Fought: Robin Reid(ranked #9, NEVER REMATCHED after controversial win), Rick Thornberry(unranked),

2000: Ranked #2
Fought: David Starie(unranked), Omar Shieka(unranked), Richie Woodhall(unranked)

2001: Ranked #2
Fought: Mario Viet(unranked), Will McIntyre(unranked)

2002: Ranked #1 because Svettes challengers got worse then Joes..
Fought: Charles Brewer(ranked #6), Miguel Jimenez(unranked), Tocker Pudwill(unranked)

2003: Ranked #1
Fought: Bryon Mitchell(ranked #6)

2004: Ranked #1
Fought: Mger Mkrtchyan(unranked), Kabery Salem(unranked)

2005: Ranked #1
Fought: Mario Viet(unranked rematch), Evans Ashira(unranked)

2006: ranked #1
Fought: Jeff Lacey(#3), Sakio Bika(unranked)

2007: Ranked #1
Fought: Peter Manfredo(unranked), Mikkel Kessler(#2)

2008: Moved to Light Heavyweight
Fought: Bernard Hopkins(#1), Roy Jones Jr(unranked seriously shot legend)

So were saying somebody who fought 5 top 10 ranked opponents in 21 defenses when he was ranked 1 or 2, and only 2 of them were top 5, is an ATG? 5 years of his prime were against unranked opponents.

Hopkins is his best win who was in his 40's. It's still a great win because of what Hopkins just did but Hopkins didn't have the speed he once had. Obviously lost a step, gave Joe the fight of his life and arguably beat him on technique alone. Then Joe never rematched to settle the score once and for all.

Instead he fought Roy Jones who was out of his prime after he got KO'd by Johnson. He was seriously shot, no speed or reflexes anymore, came off a win against shot blown up Trinidad.

So LMAO, is this really what you want to call ATG?

JOE CALZAGHE RESUME;


joe calzaghe beat 9 world champions

Chris Eubank, was a 2 weight champion and had 24 world tltle fights

Richie Woodhall was a 2 weight champion and had 6 world tltle fights

Roy Jones Jr was a 4 weight champion and had 25 world tltle fights

Charles Brewer had 7 world tltle fights

Bernard Hopkins, the best middleweight of all time he has 25 world tltle fights

Mikkel Kessler, has 11 world tltle fights and is the reigning wbc champion

Robin Reid had 8 world tltle fights

Byron Mitchell had 8 world tltle fights

Jeff Lacy had 7 world tltle fights


if you add all these world champions title fight up it adds up to 121 world championship title fight

joe calzaghe beat world class Former world title challengers

Sakio Bika

Tocker Pudwill

Omar Sheika

David Starie

Rick Thornberry

Evans Ashira

Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra

and joe calzaghe has beat people that beat people that beat

graciano rocchigiani
james toney
Kelly Pavlik
Dariusz Michalczewski
Glen Johnson
Steve Collins
Andre Dirrell
Carl Froch
Nigel Benn
Antonio Tarver
Arthur Abraham
Gerald McClellan
Julian Jackson
Frankie Liles
Jean Pascal
chad dawson and the list goes on and on

joe calzaghe beat a 31yr old guy with over 20 championship fights to become champion

when has bhop beat someone with over 20 championship fights to become champion?.....

calzaghe beat 3 guy with over 24 championship fights

joe calzaghe is The only one in history to become Undisputed super middleweight champion he has had 24 championship fights has 3 ATGs on his resume
Roy Jones Jr
Chris Eubank
Bernard Hopkins

Beat 4 Undefeated Fighters
Mark Delaney 21-0
mikkel kessler 40-0
Mario Veit 30-0
jeff lacy 21-0

bhop can't match joe calzaghe legacy

JOE CALZAGHE is the G.O.A.T 46-0=46


joe calzaghe is the greatest fighter of bernard hopkins generation

hopkins was a 4 round fighter when in fought the greatest fighter of his generation because from the 4th to 12th joe calzaghe was in his ass, bhop was blowing and puffing faking injury and getting ready to quit he b!tched, he ran he didn't fight from the 4th round on.....that how gangster joe calzaghe is

[Abstraction]

You didnt answer my question.

Joppy, Eastman and Robert Allen havent beaten one decent fighter between them. THey all got Kod down the road by lesser fighters.

Bhop hid at 160 because he knew Roy, Joe, and TOney would tap that ass. He even admitted on Saturday that he was waiting for everyone else to die out before moving to his natural weight of LHW. He is crafty, Ill give you that, but far from great.

lmfao

the Irony of Joe fans is ridiculous.
Who has Cal beaten? Lacy? LMAO

As for hiding, Cal hid in the UK refusing $ Multi-Million paydays in the USA, and settled for £100,000 in Cardiff and Manchester against Mandatories

Sure, Bhop and RJJ hid lmao