how can hopkins be better than calzaghe?

[Abstraction]

Now, now, now lets look at all the "great" title defenses Mr. Calzaghe had...

1998: Joes ranked #2.
Fought: Branko Sobot(unranked), Juan Ferreyra(unranked)

1999: Joes ranked #2
Fought: Robin Reid(ranked #9, NEVER REMATCHED after controversial win), Rick Thornberry(unranked),

2000: Ranked #2
Fought: David Starie(unranked), Omar Shieka(unranked), Richie Woodhall(unranked)

2001: Ranked #2
Fought: Mario Viet(unranked), Will McIntyre(unranked)

2002: Ranked #1 because Svettes challengers got worse then Joes..
Fought: Charles Brewer(ranked #6), Miguel Jimenez(unranked), Tocker Pudwill(unranked)

2003: Ranked #1
Fought: Bryon Mitchell(ranked #6)

2004: Ranked #1
Fought: Mger Mkrtchyan(unranked), Kabery Salem(unranked)

2005: Ranked #1
Fought: Mario Viet(unranked rematch), Evans Ashira(unranked)

2006: ranked #1
Fought: Jeff Lacey(#3), Sakio Bika(unranked)

2007: Ranked #1
Fought: Peter Manfredo(unranked), Mikkel Kessler(#2)

2008: Moved to Light Heavyweight
Fought: Bernard Hopkins(#1), Roy Jones Jr(unranked seriously shot legend)

So were saying somebody who fought 5 top 10 ranked opponents in 21 defenses when he was ranked 1 or 2, and only 2 of them were top 5, is an ATG? 5 years of his prime were against unranked opponents.

Hopkins is his best win who was in his 40's. It's still a great win because of what Hopkins just did but Hopkins didn't have the speed he once had. Obviously lost a step, gave Joe the fight of his life and arguably beat him on technique alone. Then Joe never rematched to settle the score once and for all.

Instead he fought Roy Jones who was out of his prime after he got KO'd by Johnson. He was seriously shot, no speed or reflexes anymore, came off a win against shot blown up Trinidad.

So LMAO, is this really what you want to call ATG?

Man that list is just sad lol.

i agree, Joe fans are just delusional fanboys.

[Fish_Scotland]

The bottom line is B-Hop will rank higher due to who he has fought and Joe will always have questions over his resume.It is a shame because he was a fantastic boxer in his day, who may well have competed with the very best but simple didn't.

The Calzage legacy question is hard one because he did have the tools to be one of the best but just not the direction or will to fight the best.

[damned1974]

WTF???

Are you guys mad???

Froch battered taylor, hopkins lost to him twice.

Calzaghe schooled hopkins9hopkins was so shattered he had to resort to fake low blows).

Hopkins lost to pascal(got knocked down twice), yet froch schooled pascal.

Froch and calzagher would be a great match, but currently calzaghe is above froch. But calzaghe is def above hopkins

Calzaghe is a atg, racist hopkins is literally not fit to lace his boots...

You knob,Hopkins got a robbery in the form of a DRAW in his first fight with Pascal-not a loss.
Hopkins career ****s on Calzaghe...easily.

Your triangle theories are ******.

[slimshandy69]

Hopkins career ****s on Calzaghe...easily.

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what by getting completely schooled by joey???yea nice logic

[damned1974]

what by getting completely schooled by joey???yea nice logic

What Hopkins has achieved is superior to Calzaghe-it's not even close. Last I checked,a controvertial split decision isn't getting "schooled"...

Brush up on your reading comprehension skills (as well as your boxing knowledge).

Since we were talking triangle theories earlier,why did Calzaghe duck Glen Johnson so many times?

[slimshandy69]

What Hopkins has achieved is superior to Calzaghe-it's not even close. Last I checked,a controvertial split decision isn't getting "schooled"...

Brush up on your reading comprehension skills (as well as your boxing knowledge).

Since we were talking triangle theories earlier,why did Calzaghe duck Glen Johnson so many times?

It was a racist judge that gave it to hopkins, everyone scored it to froch, the ounch stats, the pundits(USA pundits), everyone.

Hopkins was getting schooled so bad he was embarrassingly faking low blows. It was a lesson...

[wazaa.]

Now, now, now lets look at all the "great" title defenses Mr. Calzaghe had...

1998: Joes ranked #2.
Fought: Branko Sobot(unranked), Juan Ferreyra(unranked)

1999: Joes ranked #2
Fought: Robin Reid(ranked #9, NEVER REMATCHED after controversial win), Rick Thornberry(unranked),

2000: Ranked #2
Fought: David Starie(unranked), Omar Shieka(unranked), Richie Woodhall(unranked)

2001: Ranked #2
Fought: Mario Viet(unranked), Will McIntyre(unranked)

2002: Ranked #1 because Svettes challengers got worse then Joes..
Fought: Charles Brewer(ranked #6), Miguel Jimenez(unranked), Tocker Pudwill(unranked)

2003: Ranked #1
Fought: Bryon Mitchell(ranked #6)

2004: Ranked #1
Fought: Mger Mkrtchyan(unranked), Kabery Salem(unranked)

2005: Ranked #1
Fought: Mario Viet(unranked rematch), Evans Ashira(unranked)

2006: ranked #1
Fought: Jeff Lacey(#3), Sakio Bika(unranked)

2007: Ranked #1
Fought: Peter Manfredo(unranked), Mikkel Kessler(#2)

2008: Moved to Light Heavyweight
Fought: Bernard Hopkins(#1), Roy Jones Jr(unranked seriously shot legend)

So were saying somebody who fought 5 top 10 ranked opponents in 21 defenses when he was ranked 1 or 2, and only 2 of them were top 5, is an ATG? 5 years of his prime were against unranked opponents.

Hopkins is his best win who was in his 40's. It's still a great win because of what Hopkins just did but Hopkins didn't have the speed he once had. Obviously lost a step, gave Joe the fight of his life and arguably beat him on technique alone. Then Joe never rematched to settle the score once and for all.

Instead he fought Roy Jones who was out of his prime after he got KO'd by Johnson. He was seriously shot, no speed or reflexes anymore, came off a win against shot blown up Trinidad.

So LMAO, is this really what you want to call ATG?

Damn, Joe has a very pathetic resume.

I look down on him.

[daggum]

It was a racist judge that gave it to hopkins, everyone scored it to froch, the ounch stats, the pundits(USA pundits), everyone.

Hopkins was getting schooled so bad he was embarrassingly faking low blows. It was a lesson...

it was 2 racist judges that gave it to calzaghe. the punch stats were wrong. espn, yahoo, ap, bbc all had hopkins winning. so much for your everyone.

calzaghe was getting schooled so bad against bika he had to embarrassingly fake lowblows and hold the entire fight. it was a lesson.......

[Rip Chudd]

it was 2 racist judges that gave it to calzaghe. the punch stats were wrong. espn, yahoo, ap, bbc all had hopkins winning. so much for your everyone.

calzaghe was getting schooled so bad against bika he had to embarrassingly fake lowblows and hold the entire fight. it was a lesson.......

LOL. Your posts always make me laugh.

[STREET CLEANER]

Trying to put a spin on a triangle theory that doesn't even work in the first place.

Lacy turned out to be a dud and Joe's best win was against Kessler which has turned out to be not as great as everybody was making him out to be.

Calzaghe was a good fighter in his right but B-Hop is more accomplished