how can hopkins be better than calzaghe?

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  • Abstraction
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    #21
    Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
    Trying to put a spin on a triangle theory that doesn't even work in the first place.

    Lacy turned out to be a dud and Joe's best win was against Kessler which has turned out to be not as great as everybody was making him out to be.

    Calzaghe was a good fighter in his right but B-Hop is more accomplished
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    • Mr. Philadel
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      #22
      Originally posted by daggum
      it was 2 racist judges that gave it to calzaghe. the punch stats were wrong. espn, yahoo, ap, bbc all had hopkins winning. so much for your everyone.

      calzaghe was getting schooled so bad against bika he had to embarrassingly fake lowblows and hold the entire fight. it was a lesson.......
      and the ownage toll rises....how many more Calzaghe posters have to get OWNED before they come to terms with how ORDINARY Joe was LOL

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      • #1Assassin
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        #23
        lol.. if we pretend for a second hopkins didnt get robbed and calzaghe acctually beat him, bhop still completely ****s on him in terms of resume and accomplishments. barkley beat hearns twice, does that make him a greater fighter? look what hearns did to duran, yet would u rank him above duran? leonard lost to camacho, ali lost to berbick etc.. ray robinson lost to several fighters and hes the greatest ever.

        calzaghes resume is very weak and his only great oponent (hopkins) is a very questionable "win". hopkins meanwhile has the best resume of his era (imo), hes atleast in the top3. calzaghe isnt in the top15.

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        • hugh grant
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          #24
          To be fair to BH he has a better resume, but i feel BH would have benefitted so much if he had of beat JC, and that has let people say JC is better.

          You cant use BHs age against JC, as you cant only count wins but not take into consideration losses as well, and use age as an excuse.

          Its the whole career that counts and of course losses is part of the equation. BH being younger wouldnt have neccesarily helped BH that much, as i think it was just JCs style in general that would cause BH problems. If you trying messing JC about and make it ragged, JC would get into a dog fight if neccesary and make it look horrible like BH does.

          JC didnt load up on his punches and threw 1000s of punches, that BH couldnt time.
          Last edited by hugh grant; 05-23-2011, 09:12 AM.

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          • TRANSWARP
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            #25
            Quite simply hes not a bum, he can actually throw a textbook punch.

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            • SCtrojansbaby
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              #26
              Originally posted by slimshandy69
              WTF???

              Are you guys mad???

              Froch battered taylor, hopkins lost to him twice.

              Calzaghe schooled hopkins9hopkins was so shattered he had to resort to fake low blows).

              Hopkins lost to pascal(got knocked down twice), yet froch schooled pascal.

              Froch and calzagher would be a great match, but currently calzaghe is above froch. But calzaghe is def above hopkins

              Calzaghe is a atg, racist hopkins is literally not fit to lace his boots...

              LOL yes so now we know

              Hopkins Taylor and Froch are all greater then Calzaghe

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              • Walt Liquor
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                #27
                this is one of the single worst threads I've ever seen.

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                • hugh grant
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                  #28
                  JC was a harder puzzle to figure out though the statistics say, he was never beaten. Thats got to count for something, when the man in question BH had the chance but he fell short.

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                  • Joeyzagz
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                    #29
                    Maybe Calzaghe shouldve grown some balls and challenged welterweights like Hopkins did?

                    To be honest, welterweights are the only names I recognize on Bhops pedestrian resume. Half of his defenses were against Robert Allen who is a nobody, and inflated bums like Eastman and Joppy.

                    The truth about the current Hopkins is that he cheats, fouls and slops his way to a stalemate. He cant decisively beat Taylor, Winky, Pascal or Calzaghe so his strategy is to make things ugly and hope the judges rule in his favor.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JoeyZagz
                      Maybe Calzaghe shouldve grown some balls and challenged welterweights like Hopkins did?

                      To be honest, welterweights are the only names I recognize on Bhops pedestrian resume. Half of his defenses were against Robert Allen who is a nobody, and inflated bums like Eastman and Joppy.

                      The truth about the current Hopkins is that he cheats, fouls and slops his way to a stalemate. He cant decisively beat Taylor, Winky, Pascal or Calzaghe so his strategy is to make things ugly and hope the judges rule in his favor.
                      Are you kidding me? Robert Allen was actually a top 10 ranked middleweight ALL 3 TIMES B-Hop fought him. Eastman was the #1 challenger at middleweight and Joppy was ranked too.

                      You don't know *****. Whereas Calzaghe only fought 5 ranked fighters in 21 DEFENSES! LMAO!!!

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