hopkins=the best fighter of this era

[New England]

yea..........i said it

20 title defenses-most in middleweight history

2 time lineal lightheavy champ

pascal
pavlik
tarver-hof
winky-hof
oscar-hof
tito-hof

no way jose

[Khalid X]

I think a tad bit is a slight understatment.

If I were to have him in the Top 50, which I think I would. I would have him between 40-50.

Naah not really. I feel at worse he he inside the top 40. I doubt anyone could name 40 fighters with better resumes than him unless your one of those posters who holds older fighters in higher regards than they should be.

[IronDanHamza]

Naah not really. I feel at worse he he inside the top 40. I doubt anyone could name 40 fighters with better resumes than him unless your one of those posters who holds older fighters in higher regards than they should be.

I wouldn't be mad with someone having him in the Top 40.

But for me, Top 50 is a more realistic range.

JMO.

Top 20? No way.

[Ko King 212]

It all a matter of opinion but I agree.

[Khalid X]

I wouldn't be mad with someone having him in the Top 40.

But for me, Top 50 is a more realistic range.

JMO.

Top 20? No way.

I feel you on that.

BTW have you ever put together a top 50 list? I've got as far as a top 35 but even then I'm constantly swapping guys around.

My top 5 is pretty much set with
1. Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Harry Greb
4. Willie Pep
5. Benny Leonard

However I'm really tempted to put Sam Langford at #5.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Based on 3 things

Skills(actually how good you are)
Consistancy(in a fighters prime)
Resume

B-hop is no worse then top 15

he has
A level skills
A+++++++ consistancy
B+ resume with A level wins over Winky Tito Tarver and Pavlik and B+ level wins over Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal

[Khalid X]

Based on 3 things

Skills(actually how good you are)
Consistancy(in a fighters prime)
Resume

B-hop is no worse then top 15

he has
A level skills
A+++++++ consistancy
B+ resume with A level wins over Winky Tito Tarver and Pavlik and B+ level wins over Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal

Usually people ask this in an attempt to flame, but I'm just asking this outta curiousty; Do you mind posting your top 15?

[SCtrojansbaby]

I feel you on that.

BTW have you ever put together a top 50 list? I've got as far as a top 35 but even then I'm constantly swapping guys around.

My top 5 is pretty much set with
1. Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Harry Greb
4. Willie Pep
5. Benny Leonard

However I'm really tempted to put Sam Langford at #5.

i think its hilarious that you have probable seen less then 20 fights total of your top 5 unless you are like 80 years old

[The Surgeon]

hopkins resume>>floyds

hopkins achievements and legevity>>>>roy

Jones was on another level in his day tho, he beat a young fit (and not green like some say) Nard without hitting 3rd gear

And Floyd has a good record of his own that is a match for Hopkins imo, these recent guys Pascal, Pavlik ect are nothing special imo and some of his best wins are against WW's. Floyd has better skills, he's a better fighter on the whole imho. Not *****ing on B Hop the dude is a G and an all timer

[IronDanHamza]

I feel you on that.

BTW have you ever put together a top 50 list? I've got as far as a top 35 but even then I'm constantly swapping guys around.

My top 5 is pretty much set with
1. Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Harry Greb
4. Willie Pep
5. Benny Leonard

However I'm really tempted to put Sam Langford at #5.

I have tried, but it's one hell of a task.

I go more with ranges. Even though I don't currently have a list, I pretty much know what range I would place a fighter in. However, of course I am in two minds alot of the time even then. The history of the sport is incredibely vast.

I would personally argue that Sam Langford is no lower than #5, absolutely no lower. I would have him in the Top 3, personally.

But you're Top 5 you have there on display is excellent IMO.