hopkins=the best fighter of this era

[TruthMatters]

This is a fawking joke, b!tch please.

If that's the case put calzaghe ahead of him because he beats his ass

[jermainerambo]

joe calzaghe is the greatest fighter of bernard hopkins generation

hopkins was a 4 round fighter when in fought the greatest fighter of his generation because from the 4th to 12th joe calzaghe was in his ass, bhop was blowing and puffing faking injury and getting ready to quit he b!tched, he ran he didn't fight from the 4th round on.....that how gangster joe calzaghe is

[Khalid X]

i think its hilarious that you have probable seen less then 20 fights total of your top 5 unless you are like 80 years old

So please explain why those guys I listed shouldn't be ranked that high.

I bet I can explain why they should alot better than why you think they shouldn't.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Usually people ask this in an attempt to flame, but I'm just asking this outta curiousty; Do you mind posting your top 15?

I only rank modern fighters so in no order

Leonard
Barrera
Pacquiao
Chavez
Sanchez
RJJ
B-Hop
Ali
Duran
Foreman
Holmes
Monzon

after these 12 nothing really seperates the next 10-15 IMO

[Khalid X]

I have tried, but it's one hell of a task.

I go more with ranges. Even though I don't currently have a list, I pretty much know what range I would place a fighter in. However, of course I am in two minds alot of the time even then. The history of the sport is incredibely vast.

I would personally argue that Sam Langford is no lower than #5, absolutely no lower. I would have him in the Top 3, personally.

But you're Top 5 you have there on display is excellent IMO.

I agree with you on the ranges though, because even know I kinda want to switch that list around a bit (Langford at #3, Pep #4, Leonard at #5). I say this because I'm just thinking how ridiculous it was for him to give up the weight he did and just rip to weight classes. Not just that but to be feared by those bigger guys, at his size, was simply amazing.

But yeah, I think ranges are the best way to go as all those guys, including others, are special for various reasons.

[SCtrojansbaby]

So please explain why those guys I listed shouldn't be ranked that high.

I bet I can explain why they should alot better than why you think they shouldn't.

The only reason you have them that high is because you have only seen them fight at most 4 or 5 times in shytty quality youtube videos you are ranking them off some writer from ring magazines stories. But if that is your prerogative so be it.

[Khalid X]

I only rank modern fighters so in no order

Leonard
Barrera
Pacquiao
Chavez
Sanchez
RJJ
B-Hop
Ali
Duran
Foreman
Holmes
Monzon

after these 12 nothing really seperates the next 10-15 IMO

Cool cool.

But as far as my list, your right I haven't seen much film on those guys are hardly any exist. Even if it did, I just don't think people realize how different these era's are. Boxing is unique in the since that no sport, atleast not that I can think of, has had it's rules and ways they went about doing things, change as radically as the sport of boxing.

I mean how can you compare a guy who fought 30-40 times a year, like Greb did, to a guy who fought 2-3 times a year?

Also going from a 12 round fight to fighting a 15-20 round fight is completely different. It makes judging fighters based off of film hard because alot of those guys took rounds off so they may have not looked as solid through the course of a fight, as compared to a guy who only fought 12 and could fight at a faster pace.

BTW I would happily break down my top 5 if you like? I have never seen anyone rank Greb as high as I have him and also everyone, outside of a few people, have Langford ranked as high. With Greb, no one has beaten as many HOF fighters as him, and he had constantly went up in weight challenging and beating much bigger men. Langford, well if you actually read up on him then you would know why I have him ranked as high.

[Khalid X]

The only reason you have them that high is because you have only seen them fight at most 4 or 5 times in shytty quality youtube videos you are ranking them off some writer from ring magazines stories. But if that is your prerogative so be it.

Again, I have never seen any writer rank Greb as high as 3 or Langford in their top 5.

I'll give you 2 million e-points if you can link me to one that does....real talk.

[IronDanHamza]

Again, I have never seen any writer rank Greb as high as 3 or Langford in their top 5.

I'll give you 2 million e-points if you can link me to one that does....real talk.

Oh, people do.

Most definitely people do.

I can't think of any off the top of my head but plenty of Historians rank Greb and Langford as far as #1 and #2.