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Why isn't Hopkins being trashed like Manny was about taking this "test"?

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  • #51
    Originally posted by wizard king View Post
    this why i hate *******s they forget that pac made himself look supect when he was accussed the first time with all the bs excuses. thats why people have a question mark on pac and is why he gets no respect and never will until he takes the test.
    What are you talking about? Pac is respected by all except by joyboys.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Pinoy4ever View Post
      I think it's because Bernard Hopkins will never be a possible opponent for Floyd Jr.
      *****s come with the love!!!!!!!!
      pascals demands came after the fight/contract was signed so it made no sense if he demanded the test in the contract n bhop said no then wed have a discussion u guys are making stuff up n ur head

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      • #53
        Originally posted by [KLTP] View Post
        Also, don't give me that garbage with Pascal. If Pascal really wanted OST he'd put it in the contract. He's not a dumbass. He was doing it to get into Hopkins head. It was obvious.
        don't you think floyd was doing the same on Pac's case?

        floyd is smarter than people give him credit. the man starts the fight even before they get into the ring.

        nonetheless, i was mistaken about you. i thought that you were one of those who accused Pac of taking PEDs.

        my apologies.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by tacuso View Post
          Pac might enjoy partying and late nights but he do not drink, smoke, or do drugs.

          Hopkins was already asked to test but he flatly refused.
          Manny's idea of hard partying is an all-night karaoke session.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by junior gong View Post
            I am actually starting to believe its a race issue. I havent been here long, but have been an observer of the forum before joining. It seems as though being an AA fighter gets you a pass for things other fighters get hammered for. This is one example, the Khan Bradley situation is another, the slick AA fighter thing is another, the racist language that gets used here frequently is another and there are so many examples of it here.

            This type of crap makes this forum extremely hard to read at times, and I truly believe that a fair number of the AA's here truly believe that it is impossible for them to be racist. ***in sad cases.
            pascals demands came after the fight/contract was signed so it made no sense, if he demanded the test in the contract n bhop said no then wed have a discussion u guys are making stuff up n ur head

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            • #56
              *******s fail

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              • #57
                Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
                don't you think floyd was doing the same on Pac's case?

                floyd is smarter than people give him credit. the man starts the fight even before they get into the ring.

                nonetheless, i was mistaken about you. i thought that you were one of those who accused Pac of taking PEDs.

                my apologies.
                I can understand if Floyd wanted to do either. Perhaps he never cared about this whole test thing and just wanted an excuse to wait until the economy is up and running again. Who knows? Only Floyd does.

                It's all good bro, Green K.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by mathed View Post
                  They are in two different weight classes for one. If Mayweather was in the same weight class and had accused Hopkins, he would be tainted as well. Fans of Mayweather are threatened by Pac's success, so the accusations carry much more weight. Hopkins is also fighting a younger, stronger opponent- goes to show you that people may secretly feel that taking steroids is ok when you are facing so many disadvantages but not ok when you have advantages on your side.
                  BHop has aged in the ring. His advantages are his craft and knowledge. There isn't a PED out there that can't reproduce those two things. Other than that, he's getting hit more cleanly now and his punch resistance is suffering a bit (a guy w/ 16 career ko's has had him on ***** street numerous times in 24 rds). There's really nothing u can point to like him knocking out bigger guys or possessing one punch knockdown power, that would make u believe he's on PED's.

                  Now if he's pressed to take a test, I'd be all for it. Its just the sign of the times. Everyone we've witness do unbelievable things (Phelps, Torres, Bolt, LeBron, etc) have all taken the test. Those who haven't taken the test but still do amazing things (McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, Armstrong, Marion Jones, etc) either has been proven a cheat or has the dark cloud above there names. If ur doing things people haven't seen done in 100's of years or has never done...then I don't see what's wrong if the "buying" public wants prove that u didn't cheat.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by [KLTP] View Post
                    I can understand if Floyd wanted to do either. Perhaps he never cared about this whole test thing and just wanted an excuse to wait until the economy is up and running again. Who knows? Only Floyd does.

                    It's all good bro, Green K.
                    Are you gonna crucify Floyd if he suddenly dropped OST and fight Pacquiao?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
                      is that so? i though the people Pac fights are:

                      1. WEIGHT DRAINED.
                      2. SHOT.
                      3. HAS BEENS
                      4. WERE COMING OFF LOSSES AND THUS NOT AT THEIR PRIME
                      5. OLD AS HECK.

                      if pac really fought such low-class opposition, then why should his performance be considered exceptional?

                      i mean, would one's performance actually be so questionable if you fought walking-dead fighters where all you had to do was push them and they'd fall down?

                      meh... what you said was just a long-winded excuse for double-standards.
                      I dont think double-standards means what you think it means. Also you are responding to me as if you are confusing me with a Pacquiao hater, which I am not. But its pretty funny that you brought up people's criticisms towards his opponent selection and quickly rushed to your boy's defense as a default, almost instinctively. I am just a boxing fan, and used to lurk these boards when real boxing matches were being discussed in an intelligent and plausible logic-based manner.

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