Dawson, Ward and Bradley have never had a KO/TKO win over a contender

[Medved]

Its because they are lazy and only need to do the minimum to win. Fans want to see a fighter give it all and willing to die in the ring. They dont wanna see someone run around for 12 runs doing the minimum to win!

Thats why Mexicans and others who are LESS GIFTED than these so caleld Slick Young Americans have ALOT MORE FANS and have been in almost all the FOTY of the last 10 years because they put their hearts on the line.

[The Hammer]

He's 1-1 against Andrade, a fighter who is AT-BEST a fringe top 10 SMW to any objective observer.

Funny how you bring his name up as some sort of proof that Bute's resume is great. That his name is even in the discussion shows how pathetic it is.

It's like if I was to bring up Chad Dawson and said "Well he did stop Ian Gardner, that's proof he's a KO puncher and great".

Andrade has been in The Ring top ten for most of the past four or five years.

Gardner was never a contender, and you know that.

Stop letting your nationalistic feelings influence your thinking!



Common opponent: Edison Miranda

Bute was able to score an impressive KO over Miranda, while Ward pitty-patted, headbutted & held all the way for a BORING decision win.

[Kevin Malone]

If those guys can score KO/TKO wins over contenders, then why can't Dawson, Ward and Bradley?

Probably because their shitty, black, overhyped American bums who have no talent whatsoever, would lose to every single white Eastern European fighter they would face, whose resume's don't include recent tough match-ups like Brian Magee, Jesse Brinkley and Javier Maciel?

If that's really your point you are a fucking idiot.

[araindon]

Boxing is an art. The art of hitting and not getting hit. Those guys you just listed are probably amongst the most skilled boxers on the planet, their job is to win fights and if the chance is there to win by KO. There are a lot of guys who are safety first, the Klitschko's are very safety first too...Wlad in particular. He has probably the most punching power in the world at the moment, but he never goes after people until the last 2-3 rounds...most of his opponents he has the skill and ability to KO in 3 rounds....but he never does?

No disrespect to anyone who does that. Wlad, Ward, Bradley, Hopkins, whoever it is.....if they pull the win out of the bag and show us some class and boxing skill to go with it, I'm happy...and that includes Floyd Mayweather....yes I prefer KO's, but watching skilled guys counter and deconstruct other fighters is absolutely fascinating.

[Kevin Malone]

Andrade has been in The Ring top ten for most of the past four or five years.

Gardner was never a contender, and you know that.

Stop letting your nationalistic feelings influence your thinking!



Common opponent: Edison Miranda

Bute was able to score an impressive KO over Miranda, while Ward pitty-patted, headbutted & held all the way for a BORING decision win.

I'm the last person to defend Ward's "style". Keep defending the warriors your white Canadian brethren Bute keeps taking on.

No one cares about Edison Miranda. Another proof your defense of Bute is utterly ridiculous.

Again, how did Bute do against Mikkel Kessler and Arthur Abraham (2 guys who are clearly better than the best names on Bute's garbage resume)?

[Medved]

Boxing is an art. The art of hitting and not getting hit. Those guys you just listed are probably amongst the most skilled boxers on the planet, their job is to win fights and if the chance is there to win by KO. There are a lot of guys who are safety first, the Klitschko's are very safety first too...Wlad in particular. He has probably the most punching power in the world at the moment, but he never goes after people until the last 2-3 rounds...most of his opponents he has the skill and ability to KO in 3 rounds....but he never does?

No disrespect to anyone who does that. Wlad, Ward, Bradley, Hopkins, whoever it is.....if they pull the win out of the bag and show us some class and boxing skill to go with it, I'm happy...and that includes Floyd Mayweather....yes I prefer KO's, but watching skilled guys counter and deconstruct other fighters is absolutely fascinating.

ummmm Wut? Wlads KO % is 84.8% and he been fighting for a long time. Look at Wards/Bradley KO% its HORRIBLE and most of those KO been from tomato cans.

Just look at this figure, this is why american fighters have no fans. Look at the last 11 FOTY, thats when American Boxing went down hill, when americans decided they didnt need to show the fans a good time and do the minimum

[The Hammer]

Probably because their shitty, black, overhyped American bums who have no talent whatsoever, would lose to every single white Eastern European fighter they would face, whose resume's don't include recent tough match-ups like Brian Magee, Jesse Brinkley and Javier Maciel?

If that's really your point you are a fucking idiot.

That's NOT my point. Please, do not resort to LYING and pretending I'm saying something completely different than I really am.

My point is that the NATIONALISTIC EMOTIONS of people like yourself causes you to have DOUBLE STANDARDS in your appraisal of boxers.

And I think you DO understand that.

Whenever you are losing an argument, you always resort to 1) strawman, like you did there, or 2) becoming silly and making ridiculous attempts at sarcastic comments.

You hate Wladimir Klitschko and call him boring, even though he's had only one decision win in his past 8 fights. Yet you ANGRILY DEFEND the slightest criticism of American boxers who have never stopped a single contender.

God Bless America!

[joseph5620]

ummmm Wut? Wlads KO % is 84.8% and he been fighting for a long time. Look at Wards/Bradley KO% its HORRIBLE and most of those KO been from tomato cans.
Just look at this figure, this is why american fighters have no fans. Look at the last 11 FOTY, thats when American Boxing went down hill, when americans decided they didnt need to show the fans a good time and do the minimum

And Wlad's KO loss record is 100 percent. When Ward and Bradley lose to fighters on the level of Ross Puritty let me know.

[Kevin Malone]

That's NOT my point.

It isn't? So why bring up these 3 names and not Jean Pascal? Please explain and don't duck right now why his name wasn't included?

Please, do not resort to LYING and pretending I'm saying something completely different than I really am.

When you stop making ignorant nationalist racist lies about me I'll stop trolling you back asshat. "You constantly defend HBO" = Horseshit and lie. "You defend these shitty fighters" = Yeah, I do when you compare them to these mediocre guys with no resumes.

You hate Wladimir Klitschko and call him boring, even though he's had only one decision win in his past 8 fights.

I don't hate him and if I ever did say this (you probably have all my posts categorized and printed in your closet somewhere) it was in jest. He is boring and he fights guys I don't want to see. When he fights someone I want to see I'll care.

Yet you ANGRILY DEFEND the slightest criticism of American boxers who have never stopped a single contender.

If the truth that Andre Ward's resume completely stomps Lucian Bute's joke of a resume to pieces makes me a nationalist so be it.

Bring back your exciting and elite non-KO artist avatar of Jean Pascal you double-standard having turncoat.

[BoxerDood]

Wilie Pep, Winky Wright and Pernell Whittaker suck because they all can't KO top fighters, and even limited ones!

/sarcasm